One of Donald Trump’s 18 co-defendants in the Georgia racketeering case has plead guilty and made a deal with prosecutors that will involve testifying against his co-defendants.
Lucian, here is what bothers the crap out of me about our system. Hall gets probation after attempting to overthrow our democracy, a fine and community service. A woman who served her prison sentence, got out, thought she has paid her penalty and voted in an election. Our system gave her five years in prison. WTF? Many US states allow felons who fulfilled their punishment to vote. This woman gets five years for casting her vote while Hall gets probation for attempting to destroy our nation. Sigh.
If I recall the case you've mentioned, the woman is black. Hall is white. All you need to know to understand the different ways the two cases were treated, and the difference in the punishments handed out.
If he helps get Trump convicted he can have my car too. Justice isn't always fair. This is nothing new. You can't drive yourself crazy by comparing punishments. If a defendant has something to trade he gets a better deal. If he doesn't he's fucked.
Seriously, Walt -- how much influence did Scott Hall really have in the "attempt to overthrow our democracy"? As to the rest, well -- it's pretty much apples and oranges. I'm glad that some people have finally realized the appalling disparity between justice for white people and justice for Black people of similar backgrounds, but there are many better examples out there.
Thank you for looking out for us all. The column on Trump gun sale was one of the most shocking things I have ever read. Lucian, I read your columns to my family. We all feel privileged that you care for we overwhelmingly voiceless Americans. Voiceless until Election Day, that is!
Lucian, I've been in your audience for quite a while now, but just upgraded to Founder because without you I'd be lost in a very dense fog with no reliable clue about what the hell is really going on. Thank you.
Your insight into Trump's stop at the gun store revealed just how desperate this horrid, soulless clown has become in dog whistling racists and how lacking the standard sources of information have become.
I wouldn't want to be in my head without you, so thanks for all you're doing for all of us and the country. You are the man as far as I'm concerned and my minor step to Founder feels lame and insufficient, but from my heart, thanks.
Thank you for upgrading. I think about it from time to time, but I also subscribe to Joyce Vance's "Civil Discourse," Thom Hartmann, and Heather Cox Richardson's "Letters from an American," and I can't afford to upgrade to all of them, even though they all richly deserve it.
It's a familiar club, but for me Lucian is alone in his insight. West Point and with a classic heritage and then writing for the Village Voice. Who walks that path? He's one of a kind.
I love Heather's historical perspective and Joyce's legal perspective is crucial, but Lucian forces me into the here and now. What's happening on the ground to real human beings. What the battles are all about. And then the Village Voice perspective of what it all means.
Honestly I'm sure I sleep better knowing his updates are inevitable.
I hang out in a few other places too. One of these days I really am going to start my own Substack -- as soon as I come up with a clever name for it. ;-)
No hooves for now. I've rescued a few Anatolians, but that photo is of a renowned one in Turkey. There is no safer feeling than being under their calm and reassuring care.
Give me an Anatolian and Lucian's substack and I'm good to go. :)
That entire line of 4legged is quite the fearless beast in the best sense of the word.
Have 4male GSDs, German bloodline, not American. All 4 north of 50kg. 4legged missiles that can be recalled. All are very socialized, addicted to tennis balls, swimming, otherwise are big dufuses and the biggest babies when hanging around.
Nice pack. I hear ya about the superiority of the German bloodline and all big males must make for quite the household. Something not possible with ASDs mostly because their ancient DNA is based on protecting free ranging flocks of sheep and goats in the Anatolian hills with only occasional visits from the shepherds. Now since being included in the AKC beauty pageant world the instinct is being bred out of them, but the ones I've rescued were full on ASDs. Enjoy those pups and thanks for sharing.
If he's getting a deal he has already been deposed. If he tries to go back on what he told the DA he's going to be in worse trouble than when he started out.
The first domino was a strong-ass woman named Stormy Daniels. That $130,000 check was not the beginning of the end. It was, thank you, Winston, the end of the beginning. It’s taken awhile, but now we are here and it’s starting to look like the beginning of the end. Alleluia.
I predicted this would happen Lucian. There was no way that all 19 defendants were going to go to trial, especially after they had to get fingerprinted and have mug shots taken at the county jail, if nothing else that experience was a wake up call to a lot of them. The nummie that spent 5 days in jail because he didn't have the money for bond got a real close look at what maybe the next 10 years might look like, and that was a nice clean county jail, the state prisons are beyond horrible. " Get me out of this mess", is no doubt being repeated by a lot of them, "what do I have to do to not go to prison?" is probably another common phrase, for some it's probably too late, they are going to go to jail if convicted, unless they can pound an iron stake through the insipid clown's heart. And they are all going to be flat broke. Years ago I knew a couple lawyers who were very good at criminal law, both of them in capitol murder cases demanded every single thing the defendant owned in order to take on the case, houses, cars, jewelry, stock, you name it, when questioned about it they both said none of that stuff would matter if the defendant was going to spend the rest of his life in prison any way. None of us are in this position because we would never allow ourselves to be put in this mess. What we have here are 19 people that don't have the common sense to step out of the rain, they are so nailed it's not even funny. This couldn't happen to a nicer bunch, but man are there ever a lot more that need to be joining them, their day will come.
I am going to speculate that the Scott Hall plea deal will be the first of many and that DA Fani Willlis knew this would happen and that in the end there will be be only one defendant(Donald Trump) who would actuality be tried and sent to prison.
Scott Hall (1 of many guppies): "the indictment notes that Hall had a 63-minute phone call with alleged co-conspirator Jeffrey Clark" (1 of many bottom feeding synodontis catfish). This ain't a shark tank or a barrel by any means.
Note: personally, not a fan of probation for pleading down and out. Do understand first one to strike a deal is likely to get the best one. Hopefully the 2nd involves some prison time.
For perspective and context, in the GA county he crimed in possession of 1ounce or less of marijuana is a misdemeanor punishable by a year in jail/prison and a $1,000 fine.
Judith, you are so right! And I will continue to rail against a system that does this. If we do not then we do not deserve to call ourselves the beacon of light for the world. Yes, we are not perfect but we certainly should strive to be better.
And the hits just keep on coming! Legal question: bail bondsman Hall on probation, writes a check, performs 200 hours of "community service" (there are some Marjorie Taylor Greene jokes in there), can't carry his roscoe, and can't perform "any duties related to the administration of elections in Georgia." Does that mean he can't make bail for any of the other Trumpkins who have been charged by DA Willis? If Hall can do business with them, won't they demand a discount from a fellow member of the Fraternal Order of Overthrowers and Underachievers.
Susanna, I mean this respectfully, I am not sure you realize that when someone messes with the voting apparatus, attempts to negate the legal votes, what do you think was happening?!? That without question was an attempt on his part to overthrow our democracy!! He is now convicted of two counts of trying to commit election fraud, one of messing with the election computers, one of committing computer theft, attempting to defraud the Georgia election and one of computer invasion of privacy. He was trying to give the election to Trump by destroying the legal votes. Sigh.
Lucian, here is what bothers the crap out of me about our system. Hall gets probation after attempting to overthrow our democracy, a fine and community service. A woman who served her prison sentence, got out, thought she has paid her penalty and voted in an election. Our system gave her five years in prison. WTF? Many US states allow felons who fulfilled their punishment to vote. This woman gets five years for casting her vote while Hall gets probation for attempting to destroy our nation. Sigh.
If I recall the case you've mentioned, the woman is black. Hall is white. All you need to know to understand the different ways the two cases were treated, and the difference in the punishments handed out.
I was going to point this out. Justice for thee but not for me.
If he helps get Trump convicted he can have my car too. Justice isn't always fair. This is nothing new. You can't drive yourself crazy by comparing punishments. If a defendant has something to trade he gets a better deal. If he doesn't he's fucked.
True.
Also true, the jamoke driving a jalopy shouldn't receive a Cadillac of a deal.
Unless it persuades the guy driving the Ferrari to testify also.
Touche!
Yep, he got a deal. But the deal means he "has to testify" and he "has to testify honestly.:
Otherwise deals off. Now the attorneys for 17 have a reference point in what to go for by rolling over their clients to the AG.
Syisphys
Seriously, Walt -- how much influence did Scott Hall really have in the "attempt to overthrow our democracy"? As to the rest, well -- it's pretty much apples and oranges. I'm glad that some people have finally realized the appalling disparity between justice for white people and justice for Black people of similar backgrounds, but there are many better examples out there.
YES! Talk about inequality!
Thank you for looking out for us all. The column on Trump gun sale was one of the most shocking things I have ever read. Lucian, I read your columns to my family. We all feel privileged that you care for we overwhelmingly voiceless Americans. Voiceless until Election Day, that is!
Peter Ward
Yep. The gun article was right on. Hopefully it scared a bunch of folks that otherwise were living in a cloud.
Peter, same here about the gun article. And Lucian’s column was the only place I saw mention of any of it.
I have shared that one widely, and I'm utterly disgusted that the media that are all over Lauren Bobo's theater antics have pretty much missed it.
Wait, I missed it too! When was it published??
Three days ago: 27 Sept. Here's the link: https://luciantruscott.substack.com/p/the-mainstream-media-completely-missed
Lucian, I've been in your audience for quite a while now, but just upgraded to Founder because without you I'd be lost in a very dense fog with no reliable clue about what the hell is really going on. Thank you.
Your insight into Trump's stop at the gun store revealed just how desperate this horrid, soulless clown has become in dog whistling racists and how lacking the standard sources of information have become.
I wouldn't want to be in my head without you, so thanks for all you're doing for all of us and the country. You are the man as far as I'm concerned and my minor step to Founder feels lame and insufficient, but from my heart, thanks.
Thank you for upgrading. I think about it from time to time, but I also subscribe to Joyce Vance's "Civil Discourse," Thom Hartmann, and Heather Cox Richardson's "Letters from an American," and I can't afford to upgrade to all of them, even though they all richly deserve it.
It's a familiar club, but for me Lucian is alone in his insight. West Point and with a classic heritage and then writing for the Village Voice. Who walks that path? He's one of a kind.
I love Heather's historical perspective and Joyce's legal perspective is crucial, but Lucian forces me into the here and now. What's happening on the ground to real human beings. What the battles are all about. And then the Village Voice perspective of what it all means.
Honestly I'm sure I sleep better knowing his updates are inevitable.
He also makes me feel more optimistic about straight white guys around my age. ;-)
Susanna! Great seeing you on Heather, Joyce, Thom.....!
I hang out in a few other places too. One of these days I really am going to start my own Substack -- as soon as I come up with a clever name for it. ;-)
Same here!
gr8 doggo pic
Anatolian Shepherd. They don't get the spiked collar until they've killed a wolf without one.
Legendary doggo for certain. Do you have goats, sheep or other lhooved ones? Are you in a region w/~wolf~ and/or coyotes?
No hooves for now. I've rescued a few Anatolians, but that photo is of a renowned one in Turkey. There is no safer feeling than being under their calm and reassuring care.
Give me an Anatolian and Lucian's substack and I'm good to go. :)
That entire line of 4legged is quite the fearless beast in the best sense of the word.
Have 4male GSDs, German bloodline, not American. All 4 north of 50kg. 4legged missiles that can be recalled. All are very socialized, addicted to tennis balls, swimming, otherwise are big dufuses and the biggest babies when hanging around.
Nice pack. I hear ya about the superiority of the German bloodline and all big males must make for quite the household. Something not possible with ASDs mostly because their ancient DNA is based on protecting free ranging flocks of sheep and goats in the Anatolian hills with only occasional visits from the shepherds. Now since being included in the AKC beauty pageant world the instinct is being bred out of them, but the ones I've rescued were full on ASDs. Enjoy those pups and thanks for sharing.
He’s going to be extremely damaging to Sidney Powell -- if he tells the truth. In Trumpworld that’s a big “if.”
If he's getting a deal he has already been deposed. If he tries to go back on what he told the DA he's going to be in worse trouble than when he started out.
And Clarke!
The first domino was a strong-ass woman named Stormy Daniels. That $130,000 check was not the beginning of the end. It was, thank you, Winston, the end of the beginning. It’s taken awhile, but now we are here and it’s starting to look like the beginning of the end. Alleluia.
Yes, Stormy Daniels deserves the nation's thanks. No thanks to the scores of weak men who passed on standing up to the Donald.
Once you said it’s like a bankruptcy. Bit by bit then it all falls apart. We are hoping
I predicted this would happen Lucian. There was no way that all 19 defendants were going to go to trial, especially after they had to get fingerprinted and have mug shots taken at the county jail, if nothing else that experience was a wake up call to a lot of them. The nummie that spent 5 days in jail because he didn't have the money for bond got a real close look at what maybe the next 10 years might look like, and that was a nice clean county jail, the state prisons are beyond horrible. " Get me out of this mess", is no doubt being repeated by a lot of them, "what do I have to do to not go to prison?" is probably another common phrase, for some it's probably too late, they are going to go to jail if convicted, unless they can pound an iron stake through the insipid clown's heart. And they are all going to be flat broke. Years ago I knew a couple lawyers who were very good at criminal law, both of them in capitol murder cases demanded every single thing the defendant owned in order to take on the case, houses, cars, jewelry, stock, you name it, when questioned about it they both said none of that stuff would matter if the defendant was going to spend the rest of his life in prison any way. None of us are in this position because we would never allow ourselves to be put in this mess. What we have here are 19 people that don't have the common sense to step out of the rain, they are so nailed it's not even funny. This couldn't happen to a nicer bunch, but man are there ever a lot more that need to be joining them, their day will come.
Spot on. However, one correction: the Fulton County Jail is notoriously a nightmare….
I hope these dominoes will keep falling. This horrible house of cards cannot stand much longer.
I like that mixed metaphor!
What's a mixed metaphor?
house of cards image combined with falling dominoes image
I don’t care which topples first, the dominoes or the cards as long as TFG is relegated to nothingness.
I cant visualize that.
Precisely, lol.
Hall might provide the leverage to get Clark who is the bridge to Trump.
I am going to speculate that the Scott Hall plea deal will be the first of many and that DA Fani Willlis knew this would happen and that in the end there will be be only one defendant(Donald Trump) who would actuality be tried and sent to prison.
🍿🍿🍿🍿
Scott Hall (1 of many guppies): "the indictment notes that Hall had a 63-minute phone call with alleged co-conspirator Jeffrey Clark" (1 of many bottom feeding synodontis catfish). This ain't a shark tank or a barrel by any means.
Note: personally, not a fan of probation for pleading down and out. Do understand first one to strike a deal is likely to get the best one. Hopefully the 2nd involves some prison time.
For perspective and context, in the GA county he crimed in possession of 1ounce or less of marijuana is a misdemeanor punishable by a year in jail/prison and a $1,000 fine.
Thanks. I didn't have toys.
The best deals always go early.
Judith, you are so right! And I will continue to rail against a system that does this. If we do not then we do not deserve to call ourselves the beacon of light for the world. Yes, we are not perfect but we certainly should strive to be better.
And the hits just keep on coming! Legal question: bail bondsman Hall on probation, writes a check, performs 200 hours of "community service" (there are some Marjorie Taylor Greene jokes in there), can't carry his roscoe, and can't perform "any duties related to the administration of elections in Georgia." Does that mean he can't make bail for any of the other Trumpkins who have been charged by DA Willis? If Hall can do business with them, won't they demand a discount from a fellow member of the Fraternal Order of Overthrowers and Underachievers.
Susanna, I mean this respectfully, I am not sure you realize that when someone messes with the voting apparatus, attempts to negate the legal votes, what do you think was happening?!? That without question was an attempt on his part to overthrow our democracy!! He is now convicted of two counts of trying to commit election fraud, one of messing with the election computers, one of committing computer theft, attempting to defraud the Georgia election and one of computer invasion of privacy. He was trying to give the election to Trump by destroying the legal votes. Sigh.