Paul Pelosi has undergone brain surgery and is still in the hospital recovering from the brutal attack on him in the early hours of Friday morning. His wife, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, was the apparent object of the home invasion by a right-wing extremist who was yelling “Where is Nancy? Where is Nancy?” as he broke into the house and encountered her husband. She is now under even heavier security than normal, protected by a beefed-up detail of the Capitol Police usually assigned to her.
And it’s high time owners of these “social media” sites be held for libel and defamation of character.
Musk is a f-k head--and if the Pentagon is going to rely on fascist billionaires who own satellites, they are failing their duty to protect this democracy. Musk arbitrarily withdrew his satellite for use by Ukraine.
Musk needs to be put on a leash, like his pal, tRump.
The “libertarian“ judicial philosophy that is currently in force regarding free speech is being stress tested to the maximum.
Many of those with law degrees, or donors to the ACLU, or free-speech fundamentalists of whatever stripe, like to take pride in their sophisticated and nuanced understanding of the American concept of “free speech“.
But when the founders wrote the first amendment, and when Brandeis wrote his opinions, and other justices wrote related opinions up until about 30 years ago, the Internet did not exist, or at least it was not nearly as popular and ubiquitous as it has become, and in particular social media applications.
Just as an AR-15 in every home is a very different world than a musket in every frontier cabin, the digital revolution in communications has created a completely different world than the one that existed when the first amendment was written and judicial opinions regarding free speech were articulated in the following two centuries.
We are living in the world that these communications revolutions have created, whether it’s the saturation of cable TV and radio with right-wing hate-filled propaganda, or the viral proliferation of like-minded right wing authoritarian groups on social media platforms, collaborating on projects like the January 6 insurrection, or the militia groups planning to kidnap Michigan’s governor, or the perhaps not-quite-clinically-insane Mr. Depape invading and attacking Paul Pelosi in his home in the dead of night after marinating in this bile for years.
It’s a free-for-all, and the hateful and heavily armed people are causing a lot of havoc. So I’m not entirely sure that the current laws in force springing from historical judicial interpretations of free speech are ones that are going to work in the coming decades.
For people like Musk and all those of his ilk, and I include those who back Trump and his sycophants, any lie, innuendo, or embellishment does not have to have any credence or believability at all... it only needs to reinforce what those who hate democrats want to believe. There is no analysis, no thinking, no nuance... and it is so tiresomely repulsive, maddening, and depressing.
In the mid 1930s congress authorized the FCC to establish practical and enforceable rules for Radio and the coming TV. Before 2030 congress will pass stiff laws concerning abuse of the first amendment via the internet. Musk’s legacy might not be cars but tough laws regulating mischief.
This kind of slimy mess is everywhere-in my local paper there was an editorial cartoon yesterday featuring Hillary Clinton (as a witch in a tower) setting loose birds with pieces of paper saying "conspiracy theories about 2024 election" and she's pictured as saying, "Fly away my lovelies!"
That's disgusting, and that's what just one Maine paper is doing.
Then we wonder why there are lunatics running around hitting people with hammers?
Handing over the world’s public square to a naive free speech absolutist is a disaster. Whoever Elon picks for CEO, whatever his new ad policy, without rational moderation our public conversation will now be impossible over the unrestrained voices of Nazis, fascists, anti vax loons, Qanon, right wing Jew haters, left wing Jew haters, Putin’s trolls, Xi’s agents, the Ayatollah’s henchmen, Trump, Kanye and Bannon’s crowd. The only thing you now won’t find on Twitter will be criticism of Musk.
You would think a man of his stature would be more mature and dignified than to stoop to tweeting unverified stories, especially ones originating on obscure news sites that had published other strange conspiricy theories. Ang he is the new owner of Twitter. Of course he quickly deleted it but to havve evn posted it in the first place makes you wonder,
So the "common digital town square, where a wide range of beliefs can be debated in a healthy manner, without resorting to violence" Mr. Musk wants to provide is just the same old "post malicious
crap for a few hours then delete" that we've had for twenty or so years now. Can't say I see this as an improvement, not that I was expecting any from yet another overly powerful nutjob who thinks he should be able to call the shots for all of us.
twitter depends on ads and has just this past year or so finally turned a profit.
musk has said that ads are a very important part of running twitter, and said that advertisers don't want their postings to show up in the space with unfavorable posts, so he claimed he'd work on moderating the medium. this in spite of having immediately fired the person who had being doing just that.
musk is a puerile, abhorrent small minded manboy. he is self-centered and erratic in thought and behaviour, so cannot be counted upon to keep his word. his future command over twitter will likely poison it for all normal, reasonable people.
i have seen the suggestion by twitter users to try to convince musk of their objections to his heavy hand by blocking ads, thereby sending immediate notice to advertisers of their stand.
musk's debt relief counts heavily on having twitter's books in the black, so he needs his ad revenues.
although many users are opting out, i feel the best route is to stay in and work to convince advertisers to pull out.
You don’t have to go to the “far reaches” of republican party followers to find lies and every other kind of rhetorical trash imaginable. Pure bullshit is what drives the entire agenda, beginning with their false claim on “Christian values.”
Sue, Sue, Sue.
And it’s high time owners of these “social media” sites be held for libel and defamation of character.
Musk is a f-k head--and if the Pentagon is going to rely on fascist billionaires who own satellites, they are failing their duty to protect this democracy. Musk arbitrarily withdrew his satellite for use by Ukraine.
Musk needs to be put on a leash, like his pal, tRump.
Jesus Christ, just delete your precious Twitter accounts already.
The “libertarian“ judicial philosophy that is currently in force regarding free speech is being stress tested to the maximum.
Many of those with law degrees, or donors to the ACLU, or free-speech fundamentalists of whatever stripe, like to take pride in their sophisticated and nuanced understanding of the American concept of “free speech“.
But when the founders wrote the first amendment, and when Brandeis wrote his opinions, and other justices wrote related opinions up until about 30 years ago, the Internet did not exist, or at least it was not nearly as popular and ubiquitous as it has become, and in particular social media applications.
Just as an AR-15 in every home is a very different world than a musket in every frontier cabin, the digital revolution in communications has created a completely different world than the one that existed when the first amendment was written and judicial opinions regarding free speech were articulated in the following two centuries.
We are living in the world that these communications revolutions have created, whether it’s the saturation of cable TV and radio with right-wing hate-filled propaganda, or the viral proliferation of like-minded right wing authoritarian groups on social media platforms, collaborating on projects like the January 6 insurrection, or the militia groups planning to kidnap Michigan’s governor, or the perhaps not-quite-clinically-insane Mr. Depape invading and attacking Paul Pelosi in his home in the dead of night after marinating in this bile for years.
It’s a free-for-all, and the hateful and heavily armed people are causing a lot of havoc. So I’m not entirely sure that the current laws in force springing from historical judicial interpretations of free speech are ones that are going to work in the coming decades.
Stupid little prick.
One more reason to not buy a Tesla. Plenty of other electric cars available with more to come.
For people like Musk and all those of his ilk, and I include those who back Trump and his sycophants, any lie, innuendo, or embellishment does not have to have any credence or believability at all... it only needs to reinforce what those who hate democrats want to believe. There is no analysis, no thinking, no nuance... and it is so tiresomely repulsive, maddening, and depressing.
In the mid 1930s congress authorized the FCC to establish practical and enforceable rules for Radio and the coming TV. Before 2030 congress will pass stiff laws concerning abuse of the first amendment via the internet. Musk’s legacy might not be cars but tough laws regulating mischief.
This kind of slimy mess is everywhere-in my local paper there was an editorial cartoon yesterday featuring Hillary Clinton (as a witch in a tower) setting loose birds with pieces of paper saying "conspiracy theories about 2024 election" and she's pictured as saying, "Fly away my lovelies!"
That's disgusting, and that's what just one Maine paper is doing.
Then we wonder why there are lunatics running around hitting people with hammers?
There's no going back, I fear.
Handing over the world’s public square to a naive free speech absolutist is a disaster. Whoever Elon picks for CEO, whatever his new ad policy, without rational moderation our public conversation will now be impossible over the unrestrained voices of Nazis, fascists, anti vax loons, Qanon, right wing Jew haters, left wing Jew haters, Putin’s trolls, Xi’s agents, the Ayatollah’s henchmen, Trump, Kanye and Bannon’s crowd. The only thing you now won’t find on Twitter will be criticism of Musk.
Yet another Trump-like sociopath?
This obscenity who thinks he's a "man" is the reason I deleted my Twitter account.
You would think a man of his stature would be more mature and dignified than to stoop to tweeting unverified stories, especially ones originating on obscure news sites that had published other strange conspiricy theories. Ang he is the new owner of Twitter. Of course he quickly deleted it but to havve evn posted it in the first place makes you wonder,
So the "common digital town square, where a wide range of beliefs can be debated in a healthy manner, without resorting to violence" Mr. Musk wants to provide is just the same old "post malicious
crap for a few hours then delete" that we've had for twenty or so years now. Can't say I see this as an improvement, not that I was expecting any from yet another overly powerful nutjob who thinks he should be able to call the shots for all of us.
twitter depends on ads and has just this past year or so finally turned a profit.
musk has said that ads are a very important part of running twitter, and said that advertisers don't want their postings to show up in the space with unfavorable posts, so he claimed he'd work on moderating the medium. this in spite of having immediately fired the person who had being doing just that.
musk is a puerile, abhorrent small minded manboy. he is self-centered and erratic in thought and behaviour, so cannot be counted upon to keep his word. his future command over twitter will likely poison it for all normal, reasonable people.
i have seen the suggestion by twitter users to try to convince musk of their objections to his heavy hand by blocking ads, thereby sending immediate notice to advertisers of their stand.
musk's debt relief counts heavily on having twitter's books in the black, so he needs his ad revenues.
although many users are opting out, i feel the best route is to stay in and work to convince advertisers to pull out.
I vote for a boycott of Twitter. I’m not on there and never will be!!
You don’t have to go to the “far reaches” of republican party followers to find lies and every other kind of rhetorical trash imaginable. Pure bullshit is what drives the entire agenda, beginning with their false claim on “Christian values.”