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We'll never learn. War is simply a human condition that we're stuck with, unless we all somehow instantly grow up and get over ourselves.

Best of luck with that.

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Soft edit : men we'll never learn. Blue Marble is stuck w/men, not with war. War would poof in a 1-2 GENs when wimmin and 2spirit people lead their respective nations, people, and militaries. One need only look at a typical household anywhere on this beautiful Blue Marble.

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My guess is that we men never wanted to lead anything other than a hunting party and a line dance at a drink up. "Party". Not war.

Personally I'd happily defer any major communal decisions to any random woman other than any random man.

The odds of a reasonable outcome go up exponentially, Maggie T. Green not withstanding.

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(2) Same-Same

(3) Agree

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In this clip I posted from an old VHS tape the International children's Choir sing Let There Be Peace on Earth and Let it Begin With Me,. (It plays after a cute song and dance act by Ben Verre and Emmanuel Lewis. While it is true that peace begins with all of us, but in the real world jst so much hate and conflicts ove real or imagined injustices.

https://youtu.be/ugRoh0nhZWM

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Salon would be better served by bumping you back up to at least the two columns a week by you as before (I say this as compared with much of what they run but not all. And say it even though Salon ran what I feel is my most prodigious piece of reporting and finest publishing writing... albeit in an earlier Salon era).

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Oh, Lucian, you post about subjects I (we) "enjoy." Cats, dogs, wife, (importance not in that order), life in the northeast corner of the Commonwealth, especially this time of year (are there any orchards near you which grow Macouns?). But the tragedies of war? Yes, disappearing ink! Seventy-eight years ago, U.S. Army Lt. General Lucian Truscott decorated members of the famous Nisei 442nd combat team with a Presidential Unit Citation. How many of them lived to see the image of one of their fellow 442 dogfaces on the 2021 USPS commemorative stamp honoring all Japanese-Americans who served in World War II? They fought, bled, died, to save the world from a murderous, lunatic madman and his followers. Then they and so many others who served have certainly "disappeared" from the memory, lives and actions of today's MAGAists, who dishonor them, and the country they saved, with every monstrous act and word. Okay, okay. I look forward to visiting with you in Salon.

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Justifiable moral outrage is (almost) always on the agenda! The "almost" qualification is only for time & a place finesse. But this is definitely the right place and time, so for readers who have next to no idea who you're talking about....

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The 442nd Infantry Regiment (Japanese: 第442歩兵連隊) was an infantry regiment of the United States Army. The regiment is best known as the most decorated in U.S. military history and as a fighting unit composed almost entirely of second-generation American soldiers of Japanese ancestry (Nisei) who fought in World War II. Beginning in 1944, the regiment fought primarily in the European Theatre,[4] in particular Italy, southern France, and Germany. The 442nd Regimental Combat Team (RCT) was organized on March 23, 1943, in response to the War Department's call for volunteers to form the segregated Japanese American army combat unit. More than 12,000 Nisei (second-generation Japanese American) volunteers answered the call. Ultimately 2,686 from Hawaii and 1,500 from mainland U.S. internment camps assembled at Camp Shelby, Mississippi in April 1943 for a year of infantry training.[5] Many of the soldiers from the continental U.S. had families in internment camps while they fought abroad.[6] The unit's motto was "Go for Broke".

The 442nd Regiment is the most decorated unit in U.S. military history.[7] Created as the 442nd Regimental Combat Team (Japanese: 第442連隊戦闘団,[8][9] [10][11] Dai Yonhyakuyonjūni Rentai Sentōdan) when it was activated 1 February 1943, the unit quickly grew to its fighting complement of about 4,000 men by April 1943, and an eventual total of about 10,000 men[12] served in the combined 100th Infantry Battalion and 442nd RCT. The combined units[5] earned, in less than two years, more than 4,000[5] Purple Hearts and 4,000 Bronze Star Medals. The unit was awarded seven Presidential Unit Citations (seven between 1944 and 1946,[13] five earned in one month).[14] Twenty-one of its members were awarded the Medal of Honor.[4] In 2010, Congress approved the granting of the Congressional Gold Medal to the 442nd Regimental Combat Team and associated units who served during World War II,[15] and in 2012, all surviving members were made chevaliers of the French Légion d'Honneur for their actions contributing to the liberation of France and their heroic rescue of the Lost Battalion.[16]

****** Especially if you don't know much about the infamous Korematsu SCOTUS decision and why it remains infamous, or how it intersects with the 442nd's background, be sure to read the rest of the wiki summary, too long to post.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/442nd_Infantry_Regiment_(United_States)

EDIT: Major General Lucian Truscott even considered relieving General Dahlquist:

Dahlquist was criticized for his overuse of the Japanese-American 442nd Regimental Combat Team (442nd RCT), which had been attached to his 36th Division. Many believed his poor decisions led to the 442nd RCT becoming the most highly decorated unit in the history of the United States Armed Forces. Over a third of the men in the 442nd were either killed or wounded when Dahlquist ordered the unit to rescue another unit that had been surrounded by the enemy. It is not the surviving Nisei soldiers of the 442nd but their officers (none of them Japanese-American) who are most often quoted in criticism of Dahlquist.[2][3]

On October 24, 1944, the 1st and 2nd Battalions of the 141st Infantry Regiment, part of Dahlquist's 36th Division, moved to secure the right flank of the 3rd Division near the French town of St-Die. When the German forces counterattacked, the 1st Battalion was separated and cut off. After two days of attempted rescue by the other two battalions of the 141st Infantry, Dahlquist sent in the 442nd RCT, which had borne the brunt of the 36th Division's fighting for the previous eight days.[4] The 442nd would suffer 800 casualties, including 121 dead, during the five days it took to rescue 211 men of the 1st Battalion, 141st Infantry.[5] Major General Lucian Truscott, commanding the VI Corps (under which unit the 36th Division was serving), considered relieving him of his command.[6]

****** And there's no direct mention of the Korematsu Supreme Court decision, here is a link, preceded by some credit to the dissenters in the judiciary, more power to them!

Reopening the Case

In 1983, a pro bono legal team with new evidence re-opened the 40-year-old case in a federal district court on the basis of government misconduct. They showed that the government’s legal team had intentionally suppressed or destroyed evidence from government intelligence agencies reporting that Japanese Americans posed no military threat to the U.S. The official reports, including those from the FBI under J. Edgar Hoover, were not presented in court. On November 10, 1983, a federal judge overturned Korematsu’s conviction in the same San Francisco courthouse where he had been convicted as a young man.

The district court ruling cleared Korematsu’s name, but the Supreme Court decision still stands. Writing for the majority, Justice Hugo Black held that "all legal restrictions which curtail the civil rights of a single racial group are immediately suspect" and subject to tests of "the most rigid scrutiny," not all such restrictions are inherently unconstitutional. "Pressing public necessity," he wrote, "may sometimes justify the existence of such restrictions; racial antagonism never can."

In a strongly worded dissent, Justice Robert Jackson contended: "Korematsu ... has been convicted of an act not commonly thought a crime," he wrote. "It consists merely of being present in the state whereof he is a citizen, near the place where he was born, and where all his life he has lived." The nation's wartime security concerns, he contended, were not adequate to strip Korematsu and the other internees of their constitutionally protected civil rights.

He called the exclusion order "the legalization of racism” that violated the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. He compared the exclusion order to the “abhorrent and despicable treatment of minority groups by the dictatorial tyrannies which this nation is now pledged to destroy. He concluded that the exclusion order violated the Fourteenth Amendment by “fall[ing] into the ugly abyss of racism."

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https://www.uscourts.gov/educational-resources/educational-activities/facts-and-case-summary-korematsu-v-us

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Lucian your fame spreading far and wide Tribe Law just posted this:

Laurence Tribe 🇺🇦 ⚖️

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This is how it begins. You need to read this. Everyone does.

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Cool! I'd sure like to see Tribe transfer his prestige from ex-twitter to Jack Dorsey's would-be successor, bluesky. I think Tribe got burned by loudly endorsing a social medium that fizzled, so it's hard to blame him. Still … sticking w/ Muck doesn't enhance his rep. (Who knew the white South African was such a Malcolm fan he'd name ex-twitter and other businesses X?)

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Looking forward to tomorrow’s word smithery.

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The consequence of every war is, and has forever been, what if things had been different. Wars are times when things moved fast, and things get broken. On the other hand, wars open up society in ways that would not have occurred had the conflict occurred differently, or somewhere else.

I received the new biography in the mail of the life of Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain, hero of Gettysburg and Petersburg, in 1863 and 1864, and who, though badly wounded, received a battlefield promotion to Brigadier General 'on the spot' from Lieutenant General Ulysses S Grant. Chamberlain had been so badly wounded that two surgeons told him that he was going to die. He was wounded on 15 June 1864, when he recovered sufficiently that he was able to return to duty the following November; and then he was wounded again in March 1865. On 12 April 1865, Chamberlain was selected by General Grant at Appomattox to take charge of the Army of Northern Virginia, to formally accept the surrender of its arms.

Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain was governor of Maine from 1867 until 1871; and in 1893 he was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor in recognition of both his services and his sacrifice to the cause of the Union. Chamberlain had no formal training to be a military officer. He volunteered to lead the 20th of Maine Volunteers into battle to save the Union. Before that, he was a Congregational minister and a professor of rhetoric and oratory at Bowdoin College. By the standard of his times, Chamberlain was well educated in both religion, and in the classics — but leading men in battle is not something one would've thought of when appraising this young man of 34 years.

The title of the book is, On Great Fields. The Life and Unlikely Heroism of Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain. The author of this book Ronald C. White is a well-respected biographer. His other books are titled A.Lincoln and American Ulysses. Another book, Lincoln in Private, was recently completed. I am halfway through the first chapter, and I find it much to my liking.

To return to the theme, life brings us stories about people we find instantly attractive. This is one of them. Wartime raises the imperatives of life, bringing them to our attention sooner, and more forcefully, than one might otherwise expect. It's too early to prognosticate how this latest war over Gaza and Hamas is going to turn out. One definite result will be the loss of innocence and sense of surefootedness on the part of Israel. Unlike Ukraine, where Russia was the aggressor and Ukrainians are digging deep into their reserves of strength and courage to resist Putin's incursion, Israel's story begins with shame and embarrassment, and a stain on their honor that no amount of artillery can blow away. And they have a lot to answer for.

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You packed much in there, Sir.

From the bottom up:

"unlike Uk...Israel's story begins w/shame and embarrassment, and a stain on their honor ... And they (Israel) has a lot to answer for."

Are you referring to the post-WW2/post-Shoah formation of the Jewish state or its roots requiring multiple WABAC Machine connections to hooman history and biblical history? And what shame, what embarrassment? If a person, people, or nation begins with shame and embarrassment do they still possess any honor to stain?

War does raise life's imperatives or the imperatives of life. War/combat is the highest test of one's humanity. What gets raised is a wall to de-tach self from the horrors while fighting or as an innocent civ as well as bearing witness when the shooting stops to sights, sounds, and smells. There is such a thing as life's biological imperatives however have life's imperatives sound as if they came from a teevee preacher man or a carnie snake oil salesman. Do know nevah evah came across the term in a discussion or scholarship on war and combat and nevah evah in Philosophy. Can attest state killing another 2legged is not something that can be associated with "life's imperatives." On the other hand barbarians have been known to make it their it their life's imperative especially when the killing can be as cruel and unusual as possible, followed by overkill, and desecration of the dead. 4e.g. Hamas and Islamic Jihad of Palestine, the Huns, and the Mongols.

JSYK: am ~indigenous~. In your reading of Lincoln what is written about him campaigning for Congress as an "indian killah"? Or what was written about Lincoln approving the hanging of what has become to be known as the ~38~, the single highest number of hoomans ever executed in the USA on a single day including dragging in their family members to witness, and of course turning it into a supersize party? FTR When in uniform Lincoln nevah killed a single "indian" however made up for that by approving the hanging of the ~38~. Woulda preferred he did fight in combat and even killed a warrior to claiming he did, than executing ~38~ for being stewards of the land.

The US has long suffered hero worship, enlarged men (not wimmin) in death far larger than they were in life and went out of their way to literally and as a metaphor whitewash their actual history. Additionally, like so many in Western history romanticizes war, while sterilizing its death and destruction by inventing terms to mask its truth.

" The consequence of every war is, and has forever been, what if things had been different. Wars are times when things moved fast, and things get broken. On the other hand, wars open up society in ways that would not have occurred had the conflict occurred differently, or somewhere else."

Shakin' my noggin more intensely than Max Headroom. After reading the paragraph 4times find that it is more likely a person can open up a one-pound box of dry spaghetti, tie each dry strand into bow, then w/o breaking a single one, return them as bows back in the same box than make sense of what you wrote. Bon Chance.

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I saw something about Salon being bought out by some other company. How this affects Salon's editorial policies is something we don't seem to have been told yet. Hoping the best for your column and fellow travelers like "Digby" and Marcotte and O'Hehir.

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https://www.salon.com/2023/11/14/a-time-of-45/

Actually, Disappearing is the subhed. The hed is A time of 45 wars

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Heartbreaking but excellent column

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Looking forward to reading it! Thank you.

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I can’t access and read this Salon column. Is this a separate subscription?

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I was a Salon subscriber a long while ago but haven't sent any money in a long time, not since they deleted their Comments sections. But I can still access content, without any flags or paywalls or alerts. Maybe I'm just lucking out, my old status carried me thru some digital crack? No idea.

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Salon put a pay wall up a little while ago. I read it by logging on through Tor. Supposedly the dark web I wouldn’t know. I just use it to beat what few pay walls you can still beat. I am happy to pay to read columns by independent journalists like Lucian. That’s where my money goes try Tor

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Thank you for the information.

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Thanks for the Tor tip! I never used it although bit torrent was built in early to the original Opera browser (developer then founded Vivaldi, one of a few browsers I use). Are you essentially talking about the Tor browser or the technology?

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The browser. It took noting to load it on my PC, a bit more workaround on my MAC. I just read Lucian's article on that browser. Sometimes, you get blocked, just refresh and try again.

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Thanks again, AJ. No issues installing the browser on my android phone. Haven't used it yet—no need with lkt column, but I will w/ other stuff. Publications are getting more and more firewalled, encouraged no doubt by nyt's success with a pay model.

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Lucian usually starts his column out with the story he’s presenting and he provides a link to us all so we can read it in Salon.

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Linkage seems to be history. The url is https://www.salon.com/2023/11/14/a-time-of-45/

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Thank you diffny! My heart breaks every single day.

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