This guy has gotten away with every fucking thing in his life for so long that he doesn’t even know when he’s in real trouble. He has managed to avoid indictment, and before he was president he managed to avoid any kind of legal trouble related to his business or politics, and now the walls are closing in.
Probably not before the midterms, because the powers that be will likely use the midterms as yet another reason to delay justice, justice that is so long overdue for this turkey.
By Christmas? Sometime in 2023?
Passports schmassports. It’s time for memes of Trump in orange or striped jumpsuits.
Come on people. This guy is long overdue for jail.
I never thought I'd say this, especially after he got kicked off Twitter thus allowing us to experience a collective sigh of RELIEF, but perhaps we should hope his new platform remains operational for a while longer, thus allowing him plenty of time to dig his hole even deeper. Even with his new lawyer, the pathetic spoiled brat cannot keep his mouth shut! And now that the GOP is no longer going to foot his legal bills associated with this latest scandal, I wonder how long the new - and no doubt - unpaid lawyer will continue to work pro bono for such a dufus?
somebody needs to alert him to the fact that hiring lawyers on the basis of how nice he thinks their asses are is a defective strategy when he's in Dutch to the extent he would find himself right about now if he actually had the capacity to THINK. this new one is really something; she very recently trashed the FBI for "throwing the documents all over the floor" of that office. her evidence is that she's been in there many times. shit for brains and a mouth to match.
all the potentially dire implications of TFF's behavior notwithstanding, this is getting to be something a lot like FUN.
This is priceless. Trump is the gift that keeps on giving. I know that we are all impatient that it has taken so long to get to this point, but if you think about it, as time passes he will surely continue to give the DOJ more evidence for his trial. He simply can't keep his mouth shut!
I'm intrigued about what's not being discussed. There's a strict procedure as to how documents of that class are obtained. Especially the SCIF ones, they're not even supposed to leave a specific room. How was trump able to get the volume of documents that he did. I suspect there are some very nervous people who assisted him.
The disingenuous dimwit is infamous for not reading so it's not too surprising that he never read an old bit of horse-sense: when you find yourself in a hole, stop digging. If anyone ever told him that, well, he's not to good at listening either. It's hard to hear what other people are saying when you are busy blabbing.
So if two of the passports were "official" passports, wouldn't they be revoked/returned once out of office? And his personal passport is expired. Let him wait months and months for a new one, like everyone else.
It's probable that former presidents retain "official" passports for reasons of courtesy. They would have what amounts to diplomatic passports that relieve the bearer of some of the nuisances of international travel.
An interesting tidbit that I'd never thought about but, of course, the U.S. government can revoke a passport for appropriate reasons, and controls whether or not an applicant for a new or renewed passport is granted one.
Probably wise to collect his passport(s), for safe keeping. He might be considered a flight risk. After all, he has friends in the Russia, and Saudi Arabia, for starters!
I don't think Donald has "friends"...I think he has people to whom he owes some obligation, financial or otherwise, and people over whom he holds some form of unsavoury info. The former he would abandon without a thought; the latter serve some use of his and then are discarded.
I doubt he has enough character or empathy to be--or have--a real friend.
c'mon...this is a guy who gets uptight if he can't sleep in his own bed for one night. and he'd die quickly if nobody was around to pay him some attention; paraphrasing Bob Dylan, he ain't goin' nowhere.
Well, if you or I were a former president and had tens of thousands of armed supporters ready to rise up in our defense, we might be treated pretty much the same way.
If I gave Trump an I.Q. test, he would score below the average, 90-110. Not only is he I.Q compromised, but at the top of the scale for "stupid." Now, let's see him in that orange jumpsuit, holding onto the bars and screaming bloody murder about the FBI and DOJ.
I think he's cunning, not clever. He couldn't hot wire a car if his life depended on it. Agree about his skill in reading a mob. His main talent is indirectly manipulating people. A classic con man.
I'm not sure he can boil an egg. and I confess to having only the vaguest notion of how to hot-wire a car. but I could jump-start a car with a clutch when I was 16, if that means anything.
I was trying to think of an example of something that requires cleverness. I'm sure he's never boiled an egg, pumped his own gas, or painted a wall but those don't require cleverness, just life skills.
My brothers and I learned early on how to push start a car with manual trans!
A high school teacher of mine liked students who scored in the 110 (S-B) area—not complicated, over-achievers just smart enough to see the rewards possible if they worked their asses off. That motivated enough of them to keep her intrigued.
I keep hoping we will eventually see security cam footage of tRump padding about in his gold PJs making xeroxes of his stolen secret document stash and putting them in envelopes for mailing to China or Russia or Saudi Arabia, while receiving return envelopes stuffed with cash from those countries.
I keep speculating why he would want these documents so badly (they're "mine!") and another idea occurred to me - he wants to write (well, someone with more than an 8th grade vocabulary will actually write it) a BIGLY tell all book about how he was the bigliest and bestest president and world leader in history (!!!). And these documents were going to be part of the story of all his amazing successes. Comey wrote a book, Bolton wrote a book; they made $$$ so he'll show everybody he can make even more money. 🤨
That's what ghost writers are for. But, of course, they don't work for free and anyone approached for ghosting a book for tfg would likely know well the odds of being paid.
Tony Schwartz wrote that first book , The Art of the Deal, and then he wrote an article in New York magazine ( I think) where he bemoaned that he might have done anything to enhance Trump's chance tor un for president... just made him sick at heart
Well, he wrote a book before by having someone else write it for him, so I guess that's a possibility. It does raise the question, though, of whether he could find a competent ghostwriter who was willing to work with stolen documents.
P.S. Tony Schwartz, the ghostwriter on _Art of the Deal_, has spoken out many times about the reality of Trump and how he might not have taken that gig if he'd had any idea where it might lead. Jane Mayer interviewed him back in the halcyon summer of 2016, after Trump had declared for president but when most of us had no idea how bad things were going to get. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all
Disgusting as Trump is, he is matched by the quaking souls who justify not indicting him because they fear violent chaos from his followers. The chaos is already upon us in the form of election law tampering, stacking local election boards with deniers, and gun mobs showing up in statehouses to intimidate law abiding citizens. Sooner or later we have to chance the reprisals, or we are in effect giving Democracy up without a fight.
100% agree! He already got a second chance after the Repubbies in the Senate sheltered his sorry butt from justice. We know that NOT bringing him to account won't work--we have already seen it. He just goes out and does something even worse. Every time a sociopath like Trump gets a pass, it enables and encourages him to find another, higher limit to push (and break). Arrest and PROSECUTE THIS CRIMINAL. NOW. ASAP.
My question is, are all the people who know about the theft and harboring of these documents also destined for the hooskow After all, MANY assisted and abetted this hijacking of the documents and did not come forward
More than one person reported to the FBI that Trump had these documents at Mar-a-Lago. I wonder if those same people know who assisted Trump in packing up the documents.
Al Capone: tax evasion
Richard Nixon: secret recordings
Donald Trump: top secret government documents
This guy has gotten away with every fucking thing in his life for so long that he doesn’t even know when he’s in real trouble. He has managed to avoid indictment, and before he was president he managed to avoid any kind of legal trouble related to his business or politics, and now the walls are closing in.
Probably not before the midterms, because the powers that be will likely use the midterms as yet another reason to delay justice, justice that is so long overdue for this turkey.
By Christmas? Sometime in 2023?
Passports schmassports. It’s time for memes of Trump in orange or striped jumpsuits.
Come on people. This guy is long overdue for jail.
I'm in the Amen corner, Roland.
Unlike Paulie in Goodfellas, doubt if TFG can even cook.
I never thought I'd say this, especially after he got kicked off Twitter thus allowing us to experience a collective sigh of RELIEF, but perhaps we should hope his new platform remains operational for a while longer, thus allowing him plenty of time to dig his hole even deeper. Even with his new lawyer, the pathetic spoiled brat cannot keep his mouth shut! And now that the GOP is no longer going to foot his legal bills associated with this latest scandal, I wonder how long the new - and no doubt - unpaid lawyer will continue to work pro bono for such a dufus?
I’m with you, Ellen. Truth Social, or whatever he calls it, just allows him to make the feds’ job easier.
somebody needs to alert him to the fact that hiring lawyers on the basis of how nice he thinks their asses are is a defective strategy when he's in Dutch to the extent he would find himself right about now if he actually had the capacity to THINK. this new one is really something; she very recently trashed the FBI for "throwing the documents all over the floor" of that office. her evidence is that she's been in there many times. shit for brains and a mouth to match.
all the potentially dire implications of TFF's behavior notwithstanding, this is getting to be something a lot like FUN.
This is priceless. Trump is the gift that keeps on giving. I know that we are all impatient that it has taken so long to get to this point, but if you think about it, as time passes he will surely continue to give the DOJ more evidence for his trial. He simply can't keep his mouth shut!
I'm intrigued about what's not being discussed. There's a strict procedure as to how documents of that class are obtained. Especially the SCIF ones, they're not even supposed to leave a specific room. How was trump able to get the volume of documents that he did. I suspect there are some very nervous people who assisted him.
Anybody who worked near this guy in 2020 or 2021 should have a defense atty on speed-dial.
The disingenuous dimwit is infamous for not reading so it's not too surprising that he never read an old bit of horse-sense: when you find yourself in a hole, stop digging. If anyone ever told him that, well, he's not to good at listening either. It's hard to hear what other people are saying when you are busy blabbing.
It’s probably worth mentioning that all American passports are the property of the U.S. Government.
So if two of the passports were "official" passports, wouldn't they be revoked/returned once out of office? And his personal passport is expired. Let him wait months and months for a new one, like everyone else.
It's probable that former presidents retain "official" passports for reasons of courtesy. They would have what amounts to diplomatic passports that relieve the bearer of some of the nuisances of international travel.
Thanks
An interesting tidbit that I'd never thought about but, of course, the U.S. government can revoke a passport for appropriate reasons, and controls whether or not an applicant for a new or renewed passport is granted one.
Probably wise to collect his passport(s), for safe keeping. He might be considered a flight risk. After all, he has friends in the Russia, and Saudi Arabia, for starters!
I don't think Donald has "friends"...I think he has people to whom he owes some obligation, financial or otherwise, and people over whom he holds some form of unsavoury info. The former he would abandon without a thought; the latter serve some use of his and then are discarded.
I doubt he has enough character or empathy to be--or have--a real friend.
c'mon...this is a guy who gets uptight if he can't sleep in his own bed for one night. and he'd die quickly if nobody was around to pay him some attention; paraphrasing Bob Dylan, he ain't goin' nowhere.
He should be put on the “No Fly” list.
Sometimes...we love it when he doesn’t keep his mouth shut! Not often. But tidbits this juicy are yummy! Thank you.
Can’t help thinking about the difference between the TiC treatment and if you or I had done the same thing. 😡‼️
From a late edition. https://apple.news/A5ItpK81LTNGCjDjn6JPZnQ
Well, if you or I were a former president and had tens of thousands of armed supporters ready to rise up in our defense, we might be treated pretty much the same way.
Are you sure I don’t? Lucian my have, too 😜👍🏻👍🏻
Catering to traitors is a bad policy, IMO. Always… coddling these people isn’t going to make them any less seditionist. Only enables them.
How long must we wait until some action is taken against this guy? It's beyond ridiculous already.
If I gave Trump an I.Q. test, he would score below the average, 90-110. Not only is he I.Q compromised, but at the top of the scale for "stupid." Now, let's see him in that orange jumpsuit, holding onto the bars and screaming bloody murder about the FBI and DOJ.
Ah, but he is clever and can read a mob.
I think he's cunning, not clever. He couldn't hot wire a car if his life depended on it. Agree about his skill in reading a mob. His main talent is indirectly manipulating people. A classic con man.
I'm not sure he can boil an egg. and I confess to having only the vaguest notion of how to hot-wire a car. but I could jump-start a car with a clutch when I was 16, if that means anything.
I was trying to think of an example of something that requires cleverness. I'm sure he's never boiled an egg, pumped his own gas, or painted a wall but those don't require cleverness, just life skills.
My brothers and I learned early on how to push start a car with manual trans!
Good distinction.
A high school teacher of mine liked students who scored in the 110 (S-B) area—not complicated, over-achievers just smart enough to see the rewards possible if they worked their asses off. That motivated enough of them to keep her intrigued.
A low-watt bulb
that sounds just about right.....hovering around 70.
I keep hoping we will eventually see security cam footage of tRump padding about in his gold PJs making xeroxes of his stolen secret document stash and putting them in envelopes for mailing to China or Russia or Saudi Arabia, while receiving return envelopes stuffed with cash from those countries.
or more likely clearing his debts to all of them
He probably had all that recorded.
Thanks for the updates!
I keep speculating why he would want these documents so badly (they're "mine!") and another idea occurred to me - he wants to write (well, someone with more than an 8th grade vocabulary will actually write it) a BIGLY tell all book about how he was the bigliest and bestest president and world leader in history (!!!). And these documents were going to be part of the story of all his amazing successes. Comey wrote a book, Bolton wrote a book; they made $$$ so he'll show everybody he can make even more money. 🤨
Greg... he does not MAKE money he steals money He doesn't pay for what he "buys "
He could not write a book under ANY circumstance
That's what ghost writers are for. But, of course, they don't work for free and anyone approached for ghosting a book for tfg would likely know well the odds of being paid.
Tony Schwartz wrote that first book , The Art of the Deal, and then he wrote an article in New York magazine ( I think) where he bemoaned that he might have done anything to enhance Trump's chance tor un for president... just made him sick at heart
It would be "required" ownership just like MAGAhats. Bring in a fortune
I wonder who owns the manufacturing of those hats?
Isn’t he the supposed/alleged author of several “books?”
Well, he wrote a book before by having someone else write it for him, so I guess that's a possibility. It does raise the question, though, of whether he could find a competent ghostwriter who was willing to work with stolen documents.
P.S. Tony Schwartz, the ghostwriter on _Art of the Deal_, has spoken out many times about the reality of Trump and how he might not have taken that gig if he'd had any idea where it might lead. Jane Mayer interviewed him back in the halcyon summer of 2016, after Trump had declared for president but when most of us had no idea how bad things were going to get. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all
Or the guy who wrote "Clinton Cash". Didn't Bannon bankroll that through the Mercers and Breitbart?
How much longer do you think it will be before he is finally arrested? Thank you for an interesting article! Thanks again!
I am going to answer the question about when he will be arrested with one word: NEVER.
Disgusting as Trump is, he is matched by the quaking souls who justify not indicting him because they fear violent chaos from his followers. The chaos is already upon us in the form of election law tampering, stacking local election boards with deniers, and gun mobs showing up in statehouses to intimidate law abiding citizens. Sooner or later we have to chance the reprisals, or we are in effect giving Democracy up without a fight.
100% agree! He already got a second chance after the Repubbies in the Senate sheltered his sorry butt from justice. We know that NOT bringing him to account won't work--we have already seen it. He just goes out and does something even worse. Every time a sociopath like Trump gets a pass, it enables and encourages him to find another, higher limit to push (and break). Arrest and PROSECUTE THIS CRIMINAL. NOW. ASAP.
My question is, are all the people who know about the theft and harboring of these documents also destined for the hooskow After all, MANY assisted and abetted this hijacking of the documents and did not come forward
More than one person reported to the FBI that Trump had these documents at Mar-a-Lago. I wonder if those same people know who assisted Trump in packing up the documents.
Thank you for the explanations and information.