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Should be 9 to zip is right, Doug. But I won't be surprised if it's 5-4.

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According to Lawerence Tribe and Andrew Weissman on the Last Word tonight, (wow was that ever good), the court already has 5 votes to hear the case because they gave it 4 just to consider and they wouldn’t have done that if they weren’t going to hear it. Additionally they have never heard a case about presidential criminal immunity, which is what this is about, and they are going to want to place their mark on history, all judges do, look for it to not even be close. Too Fucking Cheeee! πŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ˜Ž

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I dunno. Drumpf expects "his" judges to do what he wants, that's why they were selected.

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Yes, you are right on. Lawrence O'Donnell's show last night was incredible!

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Yes, great show! I love it when Lawrence has them on. They got some really good digs in. πŸ˜ƒ

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5-4 in whose favor?

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Sorry, Judith, I should have specified 5-4 in favor of Jack Smith's petition. I mean, how could at least 5 justices not rule in favor on something so clear cut?

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Come on, Runfast, think positive here!!😁

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Dobbs was very different and full of religious implications the hard Right Catholics on the Court claim to have religious objections on a very personal level (the extent to which they might be full of shit is beyond my purview).

in THIS case, there's a clear, never-before-challenged precedent. and it's a precedent they badly want to stand because if it doesn't stand, SCOTUS becomes largely irrelevant and Congress loses any teeth it might still have. I also can't see Roberts ruling for TFF. remember that he considers himself "The Institutionalist."

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I hope so. It'll take one more besides Roberts. Gorsuch, maybe?

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my own thought.

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Sad, but possibly true.

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Depends on how big a bonus the justices are seeking from Harlan Crow and Leonard Leo, who already have Amy, Brett, Neil, Clarence and Sammy on the payroll. That’s a majority to make Trump an immune uber-citizen. But if the Fungible Five are holding out and seeking a bonus in addition to their usual payoffs in order to crown Trump, Crow & Leonard Inc. will have to dip into the cash reserves in the Caymans and Deutsche Bank.

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An excellent response, Jonathan, and quite possibly more accurate than anyone could imagine!!

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