Well, what actually happened today is that they sent a letter to his daughter Ivanka, which is the next best thing to going on Hannity and looking directly into the camera and addressing the former president himself and speaking as slowly as possible. If you’ve got the time, I suggest you take a look at it yourself. A link to it can be found here:
“I know. You know I know. I know you know I know. We know Henry knows, and Henry knows we know it. We're a knowledgeable family.”
from the Lion in Winter; Geoffrey Plantagenet speaking to his mother, Eleanor of Aquitaine, after their insurrection plot is discovered by Henry.
The committee is bearing down on Trump through the one person in the entire world who matters to him-Ivanka. He will get the message, because they're smart that way.
If nothing else it will make her run screaming to Trump: "Daddy, the mean men are threatening me, help! I don't know what to wear!"
And I'd be putting on a life jacket myself. They've got him in a corner. The Titanic is sinking..
So in reading the letter, I see something I used to do as an investigative reporter at The Washington Post. Whenever you were about to publish, you had to look at the evidence you'd gathered, and make a hard-nosed, impartial assessment of who could know something about the evidence, but you hadn't asked, because, well, it was "obvious" they would never speak to a Washington Post reporter. Then you put all your evidence in writing, and made sure this person or persons received the written questions. Nine times out of ten, they would not respond. But if you didn't ask, your story was imperiled from a libel standpoint, and a moral one. The committee has to ask her. Doesn't mean they expect an answer. Doesn't mean they are "sending a message" to her father, imho
I seem to recall seeing the movie A Lion in Winter back in my law school years, I recollect that it was a charming mosaic of intrafamily malice and intrigue, with some very enjoyable repartee. I would suppose that the Trump family was very much like that, except that there was no Katherine Hepburn to play the role of Eleanor of Aquitaine, King Henry Plantagenet's estranged wife who's been shut up in a castle for the previous ten years, because neither of them could stand one another; and intellectually, she was head and shoulders over him. This woman was as formidable as they come. Ivanka, not so much; you just need to make sure that she doesn't steal the family silverware on her way out the door.
Ivanka Trump has nothing on Eleanor; both were schemers, but Ivanka is the one who lets the hired hands do the dirty work. Now she's being brought up close and personal with the House Insurrection Investigative Committee lawyers; and she doesn't know quite what to do. Being her father's Girl Friday, she knows a thing or two about skullduggery, but getting her fingernails all dirty is not her forte. She's going to be asked a lot about things that she saw going on in the Oval Office, stuff that she was not party to but knows about, so it's going to be tough making the case that she has an arguable claim for privilege under the Fifth Amendment protection against self-incrimination; that being said, if she tries any monkey business the committee might just decide to give her testimonial use immunity for anything that she might say during the course of an interview. It is also conceivable that, since she's a whole lot smarter than Donald (which isn't saying much), she knows that if she lies about what she saw, the Justice Department would be more than happy to indict her for perjury, and that could open the door to a lot of other crimes in which she did have a pivotal role, along with her doofus husband Jared. If he gets roped in, then the ball really gets rolling. The last thing Ivanka needs is to have Jared as a codefendant on a government substantive government fraud charge.
I can easily see someone like Adam Schiff telling Ivanka that the committee really has no official interest in finding out what she did during the four years her father was President, and that the best way for her to help herself would be to simply answer the committee's questions fully and truthfully, and then leave quietly through the rear entrance to the building. That would probably be good advice, given the collateral nature of her entanglements with the Trump administration's end game; but if she makes a big stink, things could go south very quickly. I'm thinking that Ivanka will basically give the committee what they want, especially if they make it seem that her live testimony at a committee public hearing might not be required. Ivanka will probably be able to corroborate information about Team Trump obtained from other sources. What would not be helpful would be to have Ivanka called to testify at a public hearing and have her show up looking like Madonna. We want the media reporters to keep their pants on, and their minds focused on what the witnesses say, not what they might be wearing.
As much as I would like to see Ivanka testify truthfully to what she saw , knew and participated in before the insurrection I believe the chances of her actually appearing are slim and none and if she does a sit down all the Committee is going to hear is a lot of the "On advice of Counsel........."
What we are going to be faced with, IMHO, is in January 2023 a Republican House will dispense with this committee and whatever work it has done will be consigned to the dust bin of history unless, of course, DOJ has begun criminal charges against those parties like Ms. Trump who refused to cooperate voluntarily. That would give Justice two more years to work on getting whatever she knows on the record. Absent that she and the likes of Bannon , Meadows and Rudy are simply going to stonewall and hope they can run out the clock.
The letter to Ivanka is surprisingly detailed. And for the Trumps, ominous. Ivanka will not likely answer the questions even if she has to take the Fifth. But what Ivanka does or does not do is unimportant. The letter is a chess move by the Select Committee and I am so relieved by it. You never know with Washington when something is being left to rot in silence while the twenty four hour news cycle moves on to the next new shiny thing. So this letter says to me that the Committee is actively gathering evidence that will support to exposing and perhaps indicting some of the Trump White House malefactors.
The point of the Jan 6th Committee is to put into the Congressional Record facts and information that future generations can read and understand. The Trump family and supporters will be forever stained as corrupt and a gang of Grifters. They are their worse enemy, they will defeat themselves.
Prosecution of Trump might come from Georgia. The fact the Fulton County D.A. is going forward is notable. Big money in Georgia is clearly unhappy with Trump.
If you are totally disdainful of the constitution, are you allowed to continually hide under its privilege? The Jan 6 committee sees all, knows all and hopefully will just scare the bloody crap out of them. Then DOJ can take over.
“JANUARY SIXTH 2021” an MGM production with a criminal cast of 1000s.
One more chance for liberals (like me) to think we have "gotcha" on drump. It never happens. I'm counting on the NY and GA state officials to actually get some traction, and that will not be limited by the fake DOJ guidance on indictment of a president.
I translated it as the following:
“I know. You know I know. I know you know I know. We know Henry knows, and Henry knows we know it. We're a knowledgeable family.”
from the Lion in Winter; Geoffrey Plantagenet speaking to his mother, Eleanor of Aquitaine, after their insurrection plot is discovered by Henry.
The committee is bearing down on Trump through the one person in the entire world who matters to him-Ivanka. He will get the message, because they're smart that way.
If nothing else it will make her run screaming to Trump: "Daddy, the mean men are threatening me, help! I don't know what to wear!"
And I'd be putting on a life jacket myself. They've got him in a corner. The Titanic is sinking..
So in reading the letter, I see something I used to do as an investigative reporter at The Washington Post. Whenever you were about to publish, you had to look at the evidence you'd gathered, and make a hard-nosed, impartial assessment of who could know something about the evidence, but you hadn't asked, because, well, it was "obvious" they would never speak to a Washington Post reporter. Then you put all your evidence in writing, and made sure this person or persons received the written questions. Nine times out of ten, they would not respond. But if you didn't ask, your story was imperiled from a libel standpoint, and a moral one. The committee has to ask her. Doesn't mean they expect an answer. Doesn't mean they are "sending a message" to her father, imho
Gee…her lawyers will have to explain that she can’t claim privileges as The Wife!
The question is: Do they have enough to convince her that Daddy Dearest will throw her under the bus if he needs to?
I would love to see her held in contemp! Justice Dept get ready!
I seem to recall seeing the movie A Lion in Winter back in my law school years, I recollect that it was a charming mosaic of intrafamily malice and intrigue, with some very enjoyable repartee. I would suppose that the Trump family was very much like that, except that there was no Katherine Hepburn to play the role of Eleanor of Aquitaine, King Henry Plantagenet's estranged wife who's been shut up in a castle for the previous ten years, because neither of them could stand one another; and intellectually, she was head and shoulders over him. This woman was as formidable as they come. Ivanka, not so much; you just need to make sure that she doesn't steal the family silverware on her way out the door.
Ivanka Trump has nothing on Eleanor; both were schemers, but Ivanka is the one who lets the hired hands do the dirty work. Now she's being brought up close and personal with the House Insurrection Investigative Committee lawyers; and she doesn't know quite what to do. Being her father's Girl Friday, she knows a thing or two about skullduggery, but getting her fingernails all dirty is not her forte. She's going to be asked a lot about things that she saw going on in the Oval Office, stuff that she was not party to but knows about, so it's going to be tough making the case that she has an arguable claim for privilege under the Fifth Amendment protection against self-incrimination; that being said, if she tries any monkey business the committee might just decide to give her testimonial use immunity for anything that she might say during the course of an interview. It is also conceivable that, since she's a whole lot smarter than Donald (which isn't saying much), she knows that if she lies about what she saw, the Justice Department would be more than happy to indict her for perjury, and that could open the door to a lot of other crimes in which she did have a pivotal role, along with her doofus husband Jared. If he gets roped in, then the ball really gets rolling. The last thing Ivanka needs is to have Jared as a codefendant on a government substantive government fraud charge.
I can easily see someone like Adam Schiff telling Ivanka that the committee really has no official interest in finding out what she did during the four years her father was President, and that the best way for her to help herself would be to simply answer the committee's questions fully and truthfully, and then leave quietly through the rear entrance to the building. That would probably be good advice, given the collateral nature of her entanglements with the Trump administration's end game; but if she makes a big stink, things could go south very quickly. I'm thinking that Ivanka will basically give the committee what they want, especially if they make it seem that her live testimony at a committee public hearing might not be required. Ivanka will probably be able to corroborate information about Team Trump obtained from other sources. What would not be helpful would be to have Ivanka called to testify at a public hearing and have her show up looking like Madonna. We want the media reporters to keep their pants on, and their minds focused on what the witnesses say, not what they might be wearing.
As much as I would like to see Ivanka testify truthfully to what she saw , knew and participated in before the insurrection I believe the chances of her actually appearing are slim and none and if she does a sit down all the Committee is going to hear is a lot of the "On advice of Counsel........."
What we are going to be faced with, IMHO, is in January 2023 a Republican House will dispense with this committee and whatever work it has done will be consigned to the dust bin of history unless, of course, DOJ has begun criminal charges against those parties like Ms. Trump who refused to cooperate voluntarily. That would give Justice two more years to work on getting whatever she knows on the record. Absent that she and the likes of Bannon , Meadows and Rudy are simply going to stonewall and hope they can run out the clock.
The letter to Ivanka is surprisingly detailed. And for the Trumps, ominous. Ivanka will not likely answer the questions even if she has to take the Fifth. But what Ivanka does or does not do is unimportant. The letter is a chess move by the Select Committee and I am so relieved by it. You never know with Washington when something is being left to rot in silence while the twenty four hour news cycle moves on to the next new shiny thing. So this letter says to me that the Committee is actively gathering evidence that will support to exposing and perhaps indicting some of the Trump White House malefactors.
The point of the Jan 6th Committee is to put into the Congressional Record facts and information that future generations can read and understand. The Trump family and supporters will be forever stained as corrupt and a gang of Grifters. They are their worse enemy, they will defeat themselves.
Prosecution of Trump might come from Georgia. The fact the Fulton County D.A. is going forward is notable. Big money in Georgia is clearly unhappy with Trump.
This gives me hope we're not eventually penning lyrics to "The Unsinkable Donny Trump."
When the ship goes down, I will be humming "Nearer, my God, to thee..."
Perhaps she’ll fill Twitter with bathing suits of her. Wearing high heels from her new shoe brand Daddy’s Face…..
If this is a shot over the bow, let us hope the torpedo is following close behind.
If you are totally disdainful of the constitution, are you allowed to continually hide under its privilege? The Jan 6 committee sees all, knows all and hopefully will just scare the bloody crap out of them. Then DOJ can take over.
“JANUARY SIXTH 2021” an MGM production with a criminal cast of 1000s.
One more chance for liberals (like me) to think we have "gotcha" on drump. It never happens. I'm counting on the NY and GA state officials to actually get some traction, and that will not be limited by the fake DOJ guidance on indictment of a president.
After reading this https://thegailygrind.com/2020/11/27/former-apprentice-staffer-claims-trump-soiled-himself-on-set-required-diapers/ I have to wonder who was the White House Wet Wipe person. I doubt it was Ivanka but Jared is a possibility.
And they asked her nothing about her knowledge of what she heard about plans for January 6 before January 6?