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Many of Trump's appointees are inescapably linked to the project, but is Trump himself? I haven't seen real evidence of that. We do know that most, maybe almost all, of his appointments were handed to him by the Federalist Society, Mitch McConnell, etc., because Trump himself, having zero background in or knowledge of government, didn't have any ideas of his own. Except Ivanka and Jared, of course.

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Trump stopped emails, text's and surely putting his name to any policy documents years ago. Giving him plausible deniability for what it says. But he speaks of many of the points they bring up at his rallies. He undoubtedly wants what project 2025 describes.

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OK, but I question "undoubtedly." He's re-created himself in response to MAGA, and MAGA does likewise to him. Which one's the cart and which one's the horse is up for grabs. The one thing I'm pretty sure of is that a Christian he is not.

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Oh, I think you can be totally confident that he's not a Christian, he's a religion unto himself or whatever Putin is. He only wants power and money, I doubt that he cares at all what the policies are. Whatever generates applause and votes in his cult are his policies.

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Another thing we know is he's lazy and self centered and he didn't typically work over an average of three hours a day while in office. He may not be - he most assuredly is not - the "brains" behind Project 2025, but I believe he'll adopt every line of the plan unless there's something in there where he sees a missed opportunity for himself, and he'll do it just out of laziness and spite. He's like an obstreperous spoiled three year old who is difficult to lead except with an ice cream cone but those folks at Project 2025 worked with him before and they know this and have the ice cream cart lined up.

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I think you've got it -- up to a point. He'll support any point of the plan until there's real pushback. Notice how he's back-pedaling on abortion? He wants opportunities for himself, but he also wants the adulation of the crowd. Also curious about whether the Project 2025 people actually "worked with him before." Do we know that? A bunch of them were indeed in his administration, but does that translate into "worked with him"? I don't think so. I don't assume that he even knows who they are.

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I figure at a basic personality level he wants the adulation most, but at a level just up from that he wants not to go to jail and he'll say anything that he thinks increases his chances of avoiding that. I don't tend to put any credence into his back pedaling on abortion or his having pushed it as either one revealing what he thinks about it. I bet he doesn't really care either way (until some little girl he raped fears getting pregnant) because it's not about him.

I tend to think he knows these people though. There are just too many who were in too high a position in his administration and some he's been photographed hanging out with repeatedly https://www.eenews.net/articles/meet-the-ex-trump-officials-who-helped-draft-project-2025/ which doesn't mean he's studied up on their plan - he's much too intellectually lazy for that - but it would mean they have had the opportunity to have been talking points up to him. Mark Meadows? Steven Miller? He surely knows those charming fellows and more: https://www.salon.com/2024/07/11/i-know-nothing-about-project-2025-hundreds-of-allies-are-tied-to-heritage-foundation-scheme/

Hmm... it occurs to me you might mean "worked with him" on actually developing the points of the plan and there I'd agree that he hasn't put in any work on it because... work. Boring. Just do it for me and hand it to me and I'll do as much of it as appeals to me.

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That's pretty much what I mean by "worked with him": collaborated with Trump on some project, not necessarily Project 2025. Trump may have been, and probably was, briefed on anything of significance, but how much of the briefings sunk in is open to question. And Trump has his picture taken with everybody, then on some occasions (e.g., Jeffrey Epstein) he denies that he knew the person.

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Okay, yes - I see him as a bit of a puppet whose central string is his own self interest twinned with his greed.

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I’m sure he’s never read it since he doesn’t read. Perhaps he has been coached on the contents or the general scope of the document.

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