On the one week anniversary of the war, Government sources within Ukraine are reporting this morning that at least 2,000 civilians have been killed since the war began.
Hard choice for those groups? I don’t think so. They’re ok with the killing, torture and abuse of POC, LGBTQ, Asian-Americans, all of them U. S. citizens. What do they care about some faraway Eastern Europeans? Their hypocrisy is right there on their white hoods.
Furthermore, as they cheer on the Russian massacre of living, breathing, thinking, feeling, fully-developed Ukrainians, they howl in protest at abortions that result in the "deaths" of nerveless, unthinking blobs of bloody protoplasm. Those opposed to abortion SHOULD be pacifists opposed the killing of any human being at any stage of their development. But somehow, they're not....
Don't know about any of the rest of us who subscribe to Lucien but whenever and wherever I see the description "white Evangelical Christian" I automatically translate that in my head to "Bat Crap Crazy Zealots and Racists."
Pat Robertson just came out of his "retirement." He must have had a bad quarter with his 401K and needs to fleece some more suckers.
Thanks for the more granular reporting, aggregating and analysis from your military (and so much more) background, Lucian. You/we need more subscribers.
“White people were, and are, astounded by the holocaust in Germany. They did not know that they could act that way. But I very much doubt whether black people were astounded - at least, in the same way. For my part, the fate of the Jews, and the world's indifference to it, frightened me very much. i could not but feel, in those sorrowful years, that this human indifference, concerning which I knew so much already, would be my portion on the day that the United States decided to murder its Negroes systematically instead of little by little and catch-as-catch-can.” -James Baldwin
The Evangelical Christian section of North American society is struggling to be relevant and keep a place at the table where society is influenced. That's why we see these mind-bending conclusions they come to, such as supporting a former president who holds the Bible upside down (literally and figuratively), and further supporting a brutal Russian dictator just because he is against human rights for certain sections of society. You'll often see these religious leaders resort to old testament illustrations, where there is lots of bloodshed and "righteous wars". "Blessed are the Peacemakers" comments don't get you a place at the influence table.
I have been saying all along that the "conversion" of white Christian fundamentalists to fans of Russia goes back to the fall of Communism and the resurgence of the Russian Orthodox church. Russia is now seen by the fundies as a white Christian nation with the same kind of Christian-totalitarian government they devoutly wish for the USA-- thus, worthy of their support. As for Putin-- didn't that avowed atheist and ruthless KGB operative get himself baptized in the Russian Orthodox faith?
Holy crap! And I do mean that literally as CRAP is what these religious zealots are full of. I know I have mentioned this previously, but the hypocritical inhuman stance of evangelicals and conservative Roman Catholics is jaw-dropping. When TFG professed his pro-life agenda, he became their hero. Ha! He just learned how to be more “pro-vote.” Not learned, sorry, because he is not educable. Steve Bannon TOLD him what would work. His pretense of being anti-abortion made all of his horrific past and present just melt away. How can any humane person see the Russian leadership behavior as acceptable?
The invasion of Russia in June, 1941 was one of total destruction and which also saw the deployment of the SS Einsatzgruppen whose job it was to kill Jews and others. Babi Yar was one of their operations. My fear is that the Russians will repeat this initial Nazi assault, and although the Nazis assault was untimately halted at Leningrad, Moscow, and Stalingrad, the fact remains that it was nevertheless initially a scorched earth type of invasion that saw million sof Russian made into POWs and dead. Think Leningrad's 1000 day siege. Ukraine was within the scope of the Nazi invasion, Barbarossa. So, is Putin going to lift from the Nazi warbook of 1941? What would stop him if he felt he had nothing to lose? The bulk of his forces are in reserve and he has missiles!
One of democrat/progressive big mistakes is to allow Republican’ts to make diverse groups appear homogeneous then portray Democrats as their enemy. I distinguish between polivangelicals, a political party camouflaged with corrupted biblical language, and true evangelicals, such as Tim Kaine, many of who do not support Trump. Republican’ts have been winning the language/propaganda war for years. I like the term “Christian Nationalists” as it really conveys the political nature of this group. I suspect this was how Trump, who was more like Castro than any recent candidate, was able to win over anti-Castro Cuban Americans.
Robertson is a ghoul. So are all those armageddon-mongering death cultists. It's obscene how they dance on the graves of Ukrainians and ignore how that's just as "Christian" a nation as Russia. As if any of that should matter. US evangelists have a twisted, perverted notion of Christianity at best.
I am starting to wonder if the only positive aspect of this nightmare could be that a military stalemate in Ukraine foments a palace coup in Moscow? Putin might well have finally overplayed his hand. Other Russian leaders were toppled for less. It's almost a tradition, doesn't matter if it's imperial Russia or bolshevik Russia or oligarchical Russia.
You're right that Russia has no constitutional mode of succession-- so one leader replacing another is always a matter of murderous violence or vicious internal intrigue. Russia is rather like the Roman empire in that regard; Rome also never developed a set mode of succession, and eventually imperial succession became a matter of successive murders.
Hard choice for those groups? I don’t think so. They’re ok with the killing, torture and abuse of POC, LGBTQ, Asian-Americans, all of them U. S. citizens. What do they care about some faraway Eastern Europeans? Their hypocrisy is right there on their white hoods.
Furthermore, as they cheer on the Russian massacre of living, breathing, thinking, feeling, fully-developed Ukrainians, they howl in protest at abortions that result in the "deaths" of nerveless, unthinking blobs of bloody protoplasm. Those opposed to abortion SHOULD be pacifists opposed the killing of any human being at any stage of their development. But somehow, they're not....
George Carlin said of those folks, "The sanctity of life is negotiable."
Aaaaamen!
Don't know about any of the rest of us who subscribe to Lucien but whenever and wherever I see the description "white Evangelical Christian" I automatically translate that in my head to "Bat Crap Crazy Zealots and Racists."
Pat Robertson just came out of his "retirement." He must have had a bad quarter with his 401K and needs to fleece some more suckers.
Yep, the same guy that blamed 911 on feminists and the ACLU. But it’s Democrats who are trying to bring us back to the 80’s. Can’t make it up.
Just when I think that white Christian evangelists cannot sink any lower, they prove me wrong. God help us.
jeezusfμkkinkryst i'm fed up with holier-than-thou evangelists.
i follow the words of John 10:11:71..
imagine there's no country,
and no religion too.
nothing to kill or die for,
Thanks for the more granular reporting, aggregating and analysis from your military (and so much more) background, Lucian. You/we need more subscribers.
I joined yesterday...
“White people were, and are, astounded by the holocaust in Germany. They did not know that they could act that way. But I very much doubt whether black people were astounded - at least, in the same way. For my part, the fate of the Jews, and the world's indifference to it, frightened me very much. i could not but feel, in those sorrowful years, that this human indifference, concerning which I knew so much already, would be my portion on the day that the United States decided to murder its Negroes systematically instead of little by little and catch-as-catch-can.” -James Baldwin
The Repugs are traitors and have admitted as much. They need to be expunged, punished, banished … like the Nazis they are.
Well a lot of them are anti-vaxxers and they're self-eliminating by committing Covid suicide.
Yes-- that's what I've named "The Self-Extermination of the Stupid."
The Evangelical Christian section of North American society is struggling to be relevant and keep a place at the table where society is influenced. That's why we see these mind-bending conclusions they come to, such as supporting a former president who holds the Bible upside down (literally and figuratively), and further supporting a brutal Russian dictator just because he is against human rights for certain sections of society. You'll often see these religious leaders resort to old testament illustrations, where there is lots of bloodshed and "righteous wars". "Blessed are the Peacemakers" comments don't get you a place at the influence table.
I have been saying all along that the "conversion" of white Christian fundamentalists to fans of Russia goes back to the fall of Communism and the resurgence of the Russian Orthodox church. Russia is now seen by the fundies as a white Christian nation with the same kind of Christian-totalitarian government they devoutly wish for the USA-- thus, worthy of their support. As for Putin-- didn't that avowed atheist and ruthless KGB operative get himself baptized in the Russian Orthodox faith?
And the people being killed in Ukraine are mostly Russian Orthodox!!! What hypocritical assholes.
Exactly
Still Christians, yes?
Thanks for clarifying. It’s one of Putin’s points of contention apparently.
If, in fact, Putin converted….why didn’t the church in which it happened, burst into flames? OMG!
I believe Putin is just as much a Christian as the other guy. A way of influence and manipulation.
Holy crap! And I do mean that literally as CRAP is what these religious zealots are full of. I know I have mentioned this previously, but the hypocritical inhuman stance of evangelicals and conservative Roman Catholics is jaw-dropping. When TFG professed his pro-life agenda, he became their hero. Ha! He just learned how to be more “pro-vote.” Not learned, sorry, because he is not educable. Steve Bannon TOLD him what would work. His pretense of being anti-abortion made all of his horrific past and present just melt away. How can any humane person see the Russian leadership behavior as acceptable?
John Lennon had it right:
"Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people living life in peace, "
We'd all be better off.
The invasion of Russia in June, 1941 was one of total destruction and which also saw the deployment of the SS Einsatzgruppen whose job it was to kill Jews and others. Babi Yar was one of their operations. My fear is that the Russians will repeat this initial Nazi assault, and although the Nazis assault was untimately halted at Leningrad, Moscow, and Stalingrad, the fact remains that it was nevertheless initially a scorched earth type of invasion that saw million sof Russian made into POWs and dead. Think Leningrad's 1000 day siege. Ukraine was within the scope of the Nazi invasion, Barbarossa. So, is Putin going to lift from the Nazi warbook of 1941? What would stop him if he felt he had nothing to lose? The bulk of his forces are in reserve and he has missiles!
CINO
Christian In Name Only
If Jesus showed up again, this pack would be screaming, "crucify him" at the first opportunity.
One of democrat/progressive big mistakes is to allow Republican’ts to make diverse groups appear homogeneous then portray Democrats as their enemy. I distinguish between polivangelicals, a political party camouflaged with corrupted biblical language, and true evangelicals, such as Tim Kaine, many of who do not support Trump. Republican’ts have been winning the language/propaganda war for years. I like the term “Christian Nationalists” as it really conveys the political nature of this group. I suspect this was how Trump, who was more like Castro than any recent candidate, was able to win over anti-Castro Cuban Americans.
Robertson is a ghoul. So are all those armageddon-mongering death cultists. It's obscene how they dance on the graves of Ukrainians and ignore how that's just as "Christian" a nation as Russia. As if any of that should matter. US evangelists have a twisted, perverted notion of Christianity at best.
I am starting to wonder if the only positive aspect of this nightmare could be that a military stalemate in Ukraine foments a palace coup in Moscow? Putin might well have finally overplayed his hand. Other Russian leaders were toppled for less. It's almost a tradition, doesn't matter if it's imperial Russia or bolshevik Russia or oligarchical Russia.
You're right that Russia has no constitutional mode of succession-- so one leader replacing another is always a matter of murderous violence or vicious internal intrigue. Russia is rather like the Roman empire in that regard; Rome also never developed a set mode of succession, and eventually imperial succession became a matter of successive murders.