I was intentionally avoiding going back further than 1947, because where does it end? You could argue the massive number of invasions, including the Arab invasions conquering and seizing land in the name of Islam, have tainted the origins of many nations in the region, including making it problematic to deny Israel control over the entire ancient state of Israel - including Judea and Samaria. So where does it end?
Just enforcing UN resolution 1701 in Southern Lebanon / Northern Israel is already a huge problem!
It is not for us to decide which is the lesser evil; but let them have their civil war within their own state and, I'm sure, something awful will emerge, but that would be their decision/fault...just as happened in Vietnam and Afghanistan. To hell with them all.
LOL, both sides have conflicting claims as to who stole which dunams - be specific, and be sure to disambiguate your claims within the context of various wars.
Israel has erected security fences to discourage terrorist attacks, is that the kind of "stolen land" you mean? Or are we gonna go back all the war to the Arab invasions, which stole land all over the Middle East, North Africa, and invaded Spain? It took the Spanish hundreds of years to recover that land. The land titles in what is now Israel have all sorts of disputes left over from the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, the Palestine Mandate, and the formation of what is now Israel, Lebanon, and Jordan.
Trying to blame all of the problems connected with "stolen land" on Israel is risible.
Sure, but WHICH Palestinians, and elected by who, under what circumstances, and making what agreements with Israel?
Can't ignore the context surrounding these land seizures and bargaining chips, which goes back many decades.
Centuries, actually.
Centuries
I was intentionally avoiding going back further than 1947, because where does it end? You could argue the massive number of invasions, including the Arab invasions conquering and seizing land in the name of Islam, have tainted the origins of many nations in the region, including making it problematic to deny Israel control over the entire ancient state of Israel - including Judea and Samaria. So where does it end?
Just enforcing UN resolution 1701 in Southern Lebanon / Northern Israel is already a huge problem!
It is not for us to decide which is the lesser evil; but let them have their civil war within their own state and, I'm sure, something awful will emerge, but that would be their decision/fault...just as happened in Vietnam and Afghanistan. To hell with them all.
How about the land they stole? That would be a good start.
LOL, both sides have conflicting claims as to who stole which dunams - be specific, and be sure to disambiguate your claims within the context of various wars.
Israel has erected security fences to discourage terrorist attacks, is that the kind of "stolen land" you mean? Or are we gonna go back all the war to the Arab invasions, which stole land all over the Middle East, North Africa, and invaded Spain? It took the Spanish hundreds of years to recover that land. The land titles in what is now Israel have all sorts of disputes left over from the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, the Palestine Mandate, and the formation of what is now Israel, Lebanon, and Jordan.
Trying to blame all of the problems connected with "stolen land" on Israel is risible.
How about the Farhud, the violent expulsion of Jews from Baghdad in 1941 before Israel even existed?
https://archive.org/details/farhudrootsofara0000blac
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farhud