Possible arrests of journalists??? If Trump is elected, that will happen for sure. And if I were HRC, I'd be making plans to emigrate to a country which does not have an extradition clause with the US. I'm being dead serious. Trump would run rampant.
Under no circumstances can tfg be allowed to run again. He and his cronies need to be held to legal account for what they tried - and are still trying - to perpetrate. They are criminals, and must be dealt with as such, ASAP. As of this morning, Bannon is the first to defy a congressional subpoena; Get on the stick, Democrats. You've got the power. GET HIM BEHIND BARS FOR CRIMINAL CONTEMPT, NOW.
Well, if you remember from history, Hitler used the burning of the German Reichstag in Feb.1933 to suspend parts o fthe German constitution, then the Enabling Laws of March were "passed" which essentially allowed him to govern by decree. Dachau was opened at the same time, and "welcomed" political oppenents such as the Democratic Socialists, among others. And what will be our Reichstag fire? Oh, I certainly hope that history does not repeat itself.
Knowing what we know now, if we let Trump do that, we deserve whatever we get. Trump is indictable on any number of federal insurrection and abuse of powers charges. Indict him, put him on trial, and jail his sorry ass for the next thousand years. Also jail every member of Congress who supported Trump. Enough is enough!
Mr. Trump gets attention because he is great for business. He is such an outrageous thrill ride. His antics with the DOJ surprise no one. The mid-term elections will decide 2024. If Democrats keep the house and senate, Trump will face the chance of federal charges. Right now people are unhappy with Biden, as reality sets in. But in the distance the threat of a second Trump presidency scares almost everyone. Perhaps America will look at Trump in 2024 and see a 77 year old man making loud noise and decide that one turn with the carnival is enough.
It's 11:00 p.m. on Friday, and I just finished watching Bill Maher's show on HBO. Maher's editorial at the end of his show was absolutely chilling. He's been right about Trump and the Republicans all along. We're in real trouble because Democrats can't get their shit together, and the rest of us can't get our heads out of our ass. You need to pay attention, and Maher's scenario seems all true real. Watch it!
I have a question. -- can convicted felons run for office? --- There are so many predictions that Trump will run for office in 2024. I'm certainly hoping that one of the many lawsuits against him will stick long before 2024. If this does happen, will he be barred from running for office?
Of course with DJT out of the way, we have the other Trumplicans (Cruz, DeSantis, Abbott etc) -- who I think really want DJT out of the way -- so they can be center stage for the 2024 Presidential race. I don't understand why they fall at the feet of this fake person. What is the power he has over people -- he is amoral, sleazy, and downright disgusting.
His father could never have built his real estate empire without federal handouts (grants) --- DJT has never been a successful person in any way other than he happened to garner the 2016 US Presidential election due to the "fucked up" US gerrymandering and electoral college process.
What if --- Hillary Clinton and the Democrats in 2016 had pulled a DJT and demanded that the election was stolen and the DJT was not the real president....... After all, he did not win the popular vote. What about all the other close calls in Presidential races ----- Al Gore and George W. Bush? -- "hanging chads"?
Unfortunately, my state of KY has McConnell and Rand Paul ( I am volunteering with Charles Booker's campaign to try and unseat the unstable Paul -- I think his brain was even more damaged when his neighbor attacked him) --- at least we have Yarmuth on the Democrat side.
I detest McConnell so much -- he is a welfare king to the max -- having lived off the largess of the government for way too many years of being in office --- I could go on and on.
At times, my husband and I think we should move somewhere else -- I prefer to ship the lunatic republicans out of the U.S. -- Give me the Eisenhower republicans -- I have many "old school" Republican friends. --- I like the balance between fiscal conservatism and social responsibility.
People pay way too much attention to sound bites and are so uneducated about the issues. Civics education needs to be front and center in our school system.
Yes convicted offenders can run for and take office if they win, and that's a good thing. Here's why: If a person convicted of crimes, like Martin Luther King for example, cannot run for or take office, the easiest way to keep them from running or taking office is to convict them of something, anything. King spent a good bit of time in jail. Putin uses this ruse to keep opponents from running against him. Cynical? Yes, but this is politics.
Interesting point. The 22nd Amendment does indeed focus on "elected": "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice . . ." His answer (if he can find a lawyer better than any of his current crop) might be that since the 2nd election was stolen and his victory wasn't officially recognized, it doesn't count.
I have the distinct feeling that Trump won't run, because he won't be alive to. Even he said that:
""Well, one reason could be your health. You get a call from your doctor and that's the end of that," Trump explained. "That stuff happens; you hope it doesn't. I just had a medical, just had great result. You never know, there are many things can happen; politics is a crazy world. It is a big commitment of you, your children, your wife and your family."
I don't think he's bluffing-but he knows a bit of reality-he's not young, and he's already had COVID so that's probably impacted him, even though we don't hear about it.
Plus, how many of his 'people' are going to be around to help him next time when they're otherwise engaged? Those Senate hearings are going on, we might see something come of them-and Biden just announced he wasn't going to give Trump an exemption to keep his papers private due to executive privilege.
That's a first step to making Trump accountable. Let's just see who wins this game. We might all be surprised yet.
Can someone out there explain to me how there have been no laws broken by Trump through all of this and how he can just carry on free and clear as if he did nothing wrong.
What most don’t seem to understand - it is not really about Trump. He is merely a token, a front. GOP has been engineering a coup at the grassroots level to overthrow the US gov’t and replace it with an elitist reactionary authoritarian regime disguised as a republic.
This episode illustrates why these dignified "resignations" by officeholders who feel affronted are not in themselves a solution. When these people quit, their places are then liable to be filled by obedient flunkies and loyalists. Barr didn't really do any favors to the American public by resigning. He'd have done better to stay on and then work quietly to stop any of the forthcoming unconstitutional moves by trumop and his minions.
The same principle applies to the Joint Chiefs. If any of them had qualms, why resign and leave those important offices to be filled by eager sycophants? Gen. Milley stands as an example of a man who recognized his higher duty and did it.
Two things: 1) when "attempts to fraudulently overturn the election" keeps reappearing in report after report, that triggers "treason" and "sedition" in my way of thinking; and 2) do we even need to use the word "fraudulently"? Everything this mob boss did and does is fraudulent. If he's so needing of a crown, let's declare him the KING of fraud.
And for those of you who are merely worried about Trump running in 2024, there are other equally horrifying candidates out there, who are cannier and wilier than Trump and have the same ambitions for a totalitarian US. I tend to agree with Mary Hilton, and think that Trump will be too infirm to run, but someone will run under this banner. If the Democrats lose ground in 2022, the redistricting and voter suppression laws that will be enacted between then and 2024 will ensure that only a Trump-like candidate can win. And after that? The wholesale dismantling of checks and balances, with the helping hand of Messrs. Alito, Kavanaugh and Thomas, and an assist from Coney Barrett.
Possible arrests of journalists??? If Trump is elected, that will happen for sure. And if I were HRC, I'd be making plans to emigrate to a country which does not have an extradition clause with the US. I'm being dead serious. Trump would run rampant.
No question about it.
Under no circumstances can tfg be allowed to run again. He and his cronies need to be held to legal account for what they tried - and are still trying - to perpetrate. They are criminals, and must be dealt with as such, ASAP. As of this morning, Bannon is the first to defy a congressional subpoena; Get on the stick, Democrats. You've got the power. GET HIM BEHIND BARS FOR CRIMINAL CONTEMPT, NOW.
Well, if you remember from history, Hitler used the burning of the German Reichstag in Feb.1933 to suspend parts o fthe German constitution, then the Enabling Laws of March were "passed" which essentially allowed him to govern by decree. Dachau was opened at the same time, and "welcomed" political oppenents such as the Democratic Socialists, among others. And what will be our Reichstag fire? Oh, I certainly hope that history does not repeat itself.
Knowing what we know now, if we let Trump do that, we deserve whatever we get. Trump is indictable on any number of federal insurrection and abuse of powers charges. Indict him, put him on trial, and jail his sorry ass for the next thousand years. Also jail every member of Congress who supported Trump. Enough is enough!
Mr. Trump gets attention because he is great for business. He is such an outrageous thrill ride. His antics with the DOJ surprise no one. The mid-term elections will decide 2024. If Democrats keep the house and senate, Trump will face the chance of federal charges. Right now people are unhappy with Biden, as reality sets in. But in the distance the threat of a second Trump presidency scares almost everyone. Perhaps America will look at Trump in 2024 and see a 77 year old man making loud noise and decide that one turn with the carnival is enough.
It's 11:00 p.m. on Friday, and I just finished watching Bill Maher's show on HBO. Maher's editorial at the end of his show was absolutely chilling. He's been right about Trump and the Republicans all along. We're in real trouble because Democrats can't get their shit together, and the rest of us can't get our heads out of our ass. You need to pay attention, and Maher's scenario seems all true real. Watch it!
I have a question. -- can convicted felons run for office? --- There are so many predictions that Trump will run for office in 2024. I'm certainly hoping that one of the many lawsuits against him will stick long before 2024. If this does happen, will he be barred from running for office?
Of course with DJT out of the way, we have the other Trumplicans (Cruz, DeSantis, Abbott etc) -- who I think really want DJT out of the way -- so they can be center stage for the 2024 Presidential race. I don't understand why they fall at the feet of this fake person. What is the power he has over people -- he is amoral, sleazy, and downright disgusting.
His father could never have built his real estate empire without federal handouts (grants) --- DJT has never been a successful person in any way other than he happened to garner the 2016 US Presidential election due to the "fucked up" US gerrymandering and electoral college process.
What if --- Hillary Clinton and the Democrats in 2016 had pulled a DJT and demanded that the election was stolen and the DJT was not the real president....... After all, he did not win the popular vote. What about all the other close calls in Presidential races ----- Al Gore and George W. Bush? -- "hanging chads"?
Unfortunately, my state of KY has McConnell and Rand Paul ( I am volunteering with Charles Booker's campaign to try and unseat the unstable Paul -- I think his brain was even more damaged when his neighbor attacked him) --- at least we have Yarmuth on the Democrat side.
I detest McConnell so much -- he is a welfare king to the max -- having lived off the largess of the government for way too many years of being in office --- I could go on and on.
At times, my husband and I think we should move somewhere else -- I prefer to ship the lunatic republicans out of the U.S. -- Give me the Eisenhower republicans -- I have many "old school" Republican friends. --- I like the balance between fiscal conservatism and social responsibility.
People pay way too much attention to sound bites and are so uneducated about the issues. Civics education needs to be front and center in our school system.
Thanks for paying attention to my rant.
Yes convicted offenders can run for and take office if they win, and that's a good thing. Here's why: If a person convicted of crimes, like Martin Luther King for example, cannot run for or take office, the easiest way to keep them from running or taking office is to convict them of something, anything. King spent a good bit of time in jail. Putin uses this ruse to keep opponents from running against him. Cynical? Yes, but this is politics.
HI Doris,
Thanks for your response. I do not engage with Facebook. So will not see your response. We need to all start drumming!!!!!
I wish someone would ask Trump, on the record, the following question:
If you won two elections as you continue to say, how can you run for a third under our laws?
Laws would be beside the point at that stage.
Interesting point. The 22nd Amendment does indeed focus on "elected": "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice . . ." His answer (if he can find a lawyer better than any of his current crop) might be that since the 2nd election was stolen and his victory wasn't officially recognized, it doesn't count.
I have the distinct feeling that Trump won't run, because he won't be alive to. Even he said that:
""Well, one reason could be your health. You get a call from your doctor and that's the end of that," Trump explained. "That stuff happens; you hope it doesn't. I just had a medical, just had great result. You never know, there are many things can happen; politics is a crazy world. It is a big commitment of you, your children, your wife and your family."
I don't think he's bluffing-but he knows a bit of reality-he's not young, and he's already had COVID so that's probably impacted him, even though we don't hear about it.
Plus, how many of his 'people' are going to be around to help him next time when they're otherwise engaged? Those Senate hearings are going on, we might see something come of them-and Biden just announced he wasn't going to give Trump an exemption to keep his papers private due to executive privilege.
That's a first step to making Trump accountable. Let's just see who wins this game. We might all be surprised yet.
We can only hope for a helpful heart attack or simpatico stroke.
Or someone takes a chair or a lamp or something and ends this! To paraphrase a famous Twilight Zone episode.
Can someone out there explain to me how there have been no laws broken by Trump through all of this and how he can just carry on free and clear as if he did nothing wrong.
What most don’t seem to understand - it is not really about Trump. He is merely a token, a front. GOP has been engineering a coup at the grassroots level to overthrow the US gov’t and replace it with an elitist reactionary authoritarian regime disguised as a republic.
This looks real real bad.
This episode illustrates why these dignified "resignations" by officeholders who feel affronted are not in themselves a solution. When these people quit, their places are then liable to be filled by obedient flunkies and loyalists. Barr didn't really do any favors to the American public by resigning. He'd have done better to stay on and then work quietly to stop any of the forthcoming unconstitutional moves by trumop and his minions.
The same principle applies to the Joint Chiefs. If any of them had qualms, why resign and leave those important offices to be filled by eager sycophants? Gen. Milley stands as an example of a man who recognized his higher duty and did it.
Today's NYT piece re David Shor freaked me right the fuck out;
How can we stop from going, free fall, through the looking glass?
Two things: 1) when "attempts to fraudulently overturn the election" keeps reappearing in report after report, that triggers "treason" and "sedition" in my way of thinking; and 2) do we even need to use the word "fraudulently"? Everything this mob boss did and does is fraudulent. If he's so needing of a crown, let's declare him the KING of fraud.
And for those of you who are merely worried about Trump running in 2024, there are other equally horrifying candidates out there, who are cannier and wilier than Trump and have the same ambitions for a totalitarian US. I tend to agree with Mary Hilton, and think that Trump will be too infirm to run, but someone will run under this banner. If the Democrats lose ground in 2022, the redistricting and voter suppression laws that will be enacted between then and 2024 will ensure that only a Trump-like candidate can win. And after that? The wholesale dismantling of checks and balances, with the helping hand of Messrs. Alito, Kavanaugh and Thomas, and an assist from Coney Barrett.