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Shingles vaccine whomps my butt…both of them!

As you say, small price—I got shingles once.

Second bivalent this week before a trip to WV.

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Plus that shot is very painful I felt they were shooting in sludge and molasses.

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Burns too!

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Yes it does.

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Different from previous boosters?

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I;ve had four COVIDs and it was only the fourth one that I didn't have a reaction. The first one was kind of miserable but really Tylenol is your friend.

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Too true. A while back, I got the second shingles vaccine, plus pneumonia and flu, because I’m old(ish)😉, and the pharmacy had them in stock. I was down for the count for three days. The bivalent COVID vaccines weren’t nearly so bad.

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Shingles shots are a big deal.

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Do Lucian and everybody who got all those shots the same day recommend doing that? I've been putting off most of them, need to do shingles in particular. [Reading on, I think Bruce Lulu and GeorgeP have answered that: Best space 'em.]

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Costco wouldn't give me two shots in one day, with the COVID one.

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That's certainly telling, isn't it? Not fooling around with the possibly confusing downside. Thanks, MV.

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It is best to space them, but at the time, I had been searching far and wide for the shingles vaccine. I happened to be at Publix, and stopped at the pharmacy to inquire. They had one dose left, and it was mine. That put me in line for the second one.

Around here, physicians’ offices don’t give vaccines any more. You’re on your own to find a pharmacy that has what you need. I wasn’t crazy about all three of these at once, but I went for it, because I didn’t want to put any of them off longer than I had to, and they had them in stock.

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Mucho thanks for the advice, Camilla. Weren't you lucky to nail the shingles shots, and the others too! Hope some relief materializes and soon for the near-medical desert situation there,

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Glad to hear you're getting your vaccines BEFORE going to WV. I live a stones throw away and know no-one from there who has gotten theirs (although I'm sure some West Virginians have...just how many is uncertain). Stay safe, and bring a mask!

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It’s my home state and family still lives there. I’m going to very rural Pennsboro to make machine made marbles. I’m part of a small investment group who makes marbles several times a year. We always wore/wear masks because of glass and fiberglass dust.

I remain a mask wearer!

Many West Virginians—including some of my family—remain fully unvaccinated against COVID.

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Keep getting the boosters and my wife and I still wear masks in crowded public places. Bonus I haven't had a cold or the flu in three years and I will be 81 in a month.

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Ever since manual transmission was iIDd as the major colds contagion culprit I've simply washed my hands well—not an anti-covid-strength scrubbing—every time I come in from public places. I can't remember my last cold—decades ago. I too still mask up indoors, so far have ducked covid.

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Me too! I mask up and I don’t care what people think. Both my husband and I got all of the Covid vaccines and both Shingrix shots. Please don’t hesitate to get at least that one because I remember my dad having it many many years ago. He was in absolute agony as it lasted for over 2 months.

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Not to worry, Marlene, I have every intention of getting the shingles vax. My mother had an attack too when years younger than I am now, and I remember chickenpox misery from age six. I nearly got Shingrix and my first bivalent the same day, but one covid shot had caused mild discomfort so I decided to delay the Shingrix. Glad I did since I didn't know about the nasty side-effects before this forum. I'm undeterred—am just glad for the heads-up. So thank you for your concern—I just need to hike up to the Rite-Aid. Yeah, masks are rare enough these days I feel a little surge of gratitude to everyone else I see wearing one.

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I think the COVID-19 boosters combined with a flu shot doing the job for me.

If you get the sniffles, some Trump Bleach might be the trick!

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Thank you for this information. I had my 2nd bivalent covid booster last week, and felt pretty awful. Something which didn’t happen at all with the others. I’m sorry you felt that way too, but glad to hear it wasn’t just me! Phew!

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Feel better. That yokel McCarthy can't handle the debt crisis, or for that matter anything else, on his best day ever, so no worries.

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Lest anyone forget some of the more bizarre examples of Kevin "Banana-Back" McCarthy's feckless, reckless swerves and evasions:

"McCarthy has been a strong supporter of Donald Trump since 2016.[78] As minority leader, he remained a close Trump ally, keeping the Republican caucus unified in support of Trump and against his impeachment on two articles of impeachment arising from the Trump-Ukraine scandal.[72] McCarthy associated with key figures in Trump's effort to enlist the Ukrainian government in discrediting Joe Biden, Trump's political opponent; such figures included Lev Parnas, Rudolph W. Giuliani, and Robert F. Hyde.[72]

Like Trump, McCarthy supported Marjorie Taylor Greene, a Republican candidate in 2020 for a U.S. House seat from northwest Georgia; Greene's past racist, anti-Semitic comments and her promotion of QAnon (a far-right conspiracy theory) led other Republicans to distance themselves from her.[78][79] McCarthy did not take steps to thwart Greene's candidacy and did not endorse her opponent in the Republican primary runoff election.[78] After Greene was nominated, McCarthy denounced the fringe conspiracy, saying, "There is no place for QAnon in the Republican Party", and said that Greene had distanced herself from her earlier statements.[80] In 2020, McCarthy was asked about Trump's false claims that Joe Scarborough (an MSNBC host and former Republican congressman) was linked to the death of a staff member; a few House Republicans criticized Trump for his use of inflammatory and false rhetoric, but McCarthy declined to take a position.[81] McCarthy's predecessor, Bill Thomas, for whom McCarthy served as a staffer from 1987 through 2002, excoriated McCarthy for his failure to accept the result of the 2020 presidential election and unwillingness to fully confront Trump for his role in precipitating and maintaining the January 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol.[32]"

Wait, there's more, this kind of shameless opportunist can't help themselves, they lie via inane euphemisms as readily as they curry favor with quasi-psychopaths* like Trump:

"In May 2020, during the COVID-19 pandemic, McCarthy and House Republicans filed a lawsuit to stop the House of Representatives from allowing remote proxy voting by representatives, a measure that had been introduced under Speaker Nancy Pelosi to prevent the virus's spread in the Capitol.[82][83] McCarthy and the other plaintiffs claimed that a quorum of members had to be physically present in the chamber to conduct business; Pelosi defended the rule as a critical public health measure and pointed to the Constitution authorizing each chamber of Congress to establish its own procedural rules.[83] In August 2020, a federal judge dismissed McCarthy's lawsuit against Pelosi, ruling that the House has "absolute immunity from civil suit" under the Constitution's Speech or Debate Clause.[83]

In November 2020, in the aftermath of the 2020 presidential election, McCarthy falsely insisted on Laura Ingraham's television show that "President Trump won this election"—echoing Trump's own claim—even as vote-counting was ongoing in several states.[84][85] McCarthy insinuated that large-scale voter fraud would lead Trump to lose, saying "Everyone who is listening: Do not be quiet. Do not be silent about this. We cannot allow this to happen before our very eyes."[86][87] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_McCarthy

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* No, you won't find that term in the DSM-V, I am not a mental health professional, but it fits "so perfectly" - as Trump himself might say - or at least is an interesting hypothesis, for professional psychologists to study in depth.

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"I am the perfect quasi-psychopath, lots of people are saying so, it's a kind of special stable genius train, trait, which is it? Who the hell knows what kind of trait train it is?" etc. etc.

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It's beyond bizarre, into theater of the absurd territory, that such a hypothetical word salad could, plausibly, be attributed to a former U.S president!

And it looks like he isn't finished, there could be even worse on the horizon.

Just a friendly warning to one and all. I hope by all that's sacred Trump, somehow, is prevented from wreaking more chaos and carnage. But I have no faith it won't happen - what persuasive evidence in his and the GOP's recent past, would argue otherwise?

Trump has provided ample publicly available examples to support the suggestion, or a "tentative hypothesis," so as not to engage in any overreaching, being myself untrained as a psychologist - examples in his endless rants, the infamous spontaneous tantrums, schoolyard insults for all of his opponent and former "perfect hires," utterly preposterous lies, including lies repeated even after being repeatedly debunked, vicious invective aimed at a long, long list of targets, to even begin to recount the godawful total in more detail.

I believe all of that is more than enough, to support a kind of vernacular coinage, with the suitable caveats appended.

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Other than a sore arm and a little general malaise, has no reaction to any of the Covid vax--had Initial shots, 2 boosters and first bivalent booster. Due for second bivalent. My 3 grandchildren came down with covid the day after I arrived for a visit, were coughing and snotting all over me--I got nothing.

The shingles vax, both doses, kicked my ass

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Good move. Dealing with anything to do with Kevin McCarthy would almost certainly cause a relapse. Take it easy!!

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You both get well you have a litter of kittens to take care of soon.

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Sorry to hear that. I got the COVID booster last Thursday and had no reaction whatsoever. I do avoid multiple vaccinations at the same time per the recommendation of my wife who is an immunologist.

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I work part time in an acupuncture office and I tell patients re that it is not a quick fix, but everybody is different just as every body is different, so take care Lucian and Tracy, better days ahead!

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The second shingles shot put me down for the count for three days. When I whined at someone who I did not know had had shingles, she told me it was a small price to pay.

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Bless you my child. You are one of the few, the proud, the lucky.

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I like fierce women.

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The 2nd shingle shot did me in for a couple of days...fatigue, achy and what a sore injection spot!

Gonna get the second bivalent next week! So far, the shots have kept us Covid-free.

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Same here. The bivalent COVID shots weren’t nearly as bad as the ones for shingles.

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I'm so glad you're better. They recommended Tylenol to me and it worked. I had symptoms every time except the last one. It's unpleasant and unwelcome. But way better than a full infection of COVID.

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The shingles and pneumonia vaccines have the big side effects, bivalent not so much. I would recommend taking them sequentially, 1 week apart ;-)

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Feel better!

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Figure that you both need the time out anyway, and you got the best possible excuse to kick back and contemplate... kittens.

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You and Tracy take it easy. Bet your arms are sore. It ain’t easy getting older but hey, at least we have science to help keep us movin’ and groovin’!

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