The meme of the morning, being pushed by Josh Marshall at Talking Points Memo and G. Elliott Morris at FiveThirtyEight is worth paying attention to. “If Biden was winning only 60 percent, people would be freaking out,” wrote Morris last night, shortly after the polls closed. “Face it: This is a weak showing for Trump in South Carolina,” is the way Josh Marshall put it.
I agree with them both. Trump has been the presumptive nominee of the Republican Party for months now. All the pip-squeaks who took the Trump-less debate stage late last year deluding themselves that they had a shot at beating him – I’m talking to you, Ron “Landslide” DeSantis – are licking their wounds and sadly reviewing the piles of campaign bills they haven’t paid.
You’d think Trump would be romping to victory in these states that his campaign has been working and spending money in for nearly a year, but 40 percent of Republicans in South Carolina voted against Trump and for Haley, knowing that she has no real chance at the nomination.
In New Hampshire, 43 percent of Republicans voted against Trump, and Haley and DeSantis combined to take 40.3 percent of Republicans away from Trump in Iowa.
The Iowa and South Carolina numbers are real stinkers. Trump had held more rallies in Iowa than the state has tractors, and his campaign had been preparing, studying caucus rules and gathering supporters, for nearly a year. South Carolina is a deep south red hats and pickup truck Trump state, flat out. Despite having been governor of the state, Haley isn’t particularly loved there. Trump should have easily walked away with well north of 70 percent.
The number in South Carolina should be especially worrisome to Trump when you look at who turned out to vote in the primary. An NBC poll before the primaries began showed that 69 percent of those planning to vote in Republican primaries or caucuses are not college graduates. That figure alone should be running chills down Republican spines, because the low-education vote is not a growth area among likely voters in the future. Voters without college educations are “both a growing presence in the party and Trump’s main source of strength,” according to the Wall Street Journal. But even among his strongest supporters, Trump didn’t exactly shine: he won 71 percent of that non-college educated vote yesterday in South Carolina, and only about 60 percent in New Hampshire and Iowa. That means a significant percentage of voters who are supposed to be his strongest supporters voted for someone else in those three primaries.
The group that should give Trump the biggest nightmare are independents. According to APVoteCast, only a third of independents backed Trump in South Carolina, while Haley picked up 53 percent of them. It was worse for Trump in New Hampshire, where Haley took 67 percent of independents, compared to Trump’s 30 percent.
So what’s going to happen with all these Republicans who voted against Trump in Iowa, New Hampshire and now South Carolina? Yesterday, 16 percent of people who voted against Trump told exit pollsters that they “would be so disappointed if Trump was the nominee that they would not back him in November,” the Wall Street Journal found. Twenty percent of Republicans in New Hampshire and 15 percent in Iowa said they would not vote for Trump if he is the nominee.
The New York Times interviewed nearly 40 people in South Carolina after they cast votes for Haley and asked which way they would vote in November if Trump is the nominee. Most of them, according to the Times, fell into what pollsters are calling the “double-haters” group, voters who don’t like either Trump or Biden. But among the interviewees, only about half told the Times that they stick with Trump in November, “while expressing varying degrees of discomfort.”
Think about that for a moment. That leaves the other half who say they won’t vote for Trump, giving reasons like the Jan. 6 insurrection and his disrespect of the military. But some of these voters told the Times they couldn’t vote for Biden because the Democrats “are worse,” indicating they may just sit out the election if Trump and Biden are the nominees.
Trump may have won the primary in South Carolina, but down in the weeds of the vote, he has some real problems. Haley is staying in the race at least through Super Tuesday coming up on March 5. The Trump campaign announced that after last night’s South Carolina results, their strategy for dealing with Nikki will be to ignore her. In terms of getting the Republican nomination, that’ll work for Trump. Haley won’t be a factor from now on.
But her voters will, and Trump will ignore them at his peril.
I totally agree with Lucian, as usual. To repeat and add to it:On the political front, the main stream media for the most part, continues to support Trump, ignoring his deteriorating brain evidenced by his "word salads" in his rallies, instead focusing on the very normal things that an old Biden has, as do all old folks, like there is something wrong. They are doing just like they did in 2016, helping Trump. Compare a decent, intelligent person putting his nation first with a narcissist, a wannabe dictator, promising to only obey parts of the US Constitution, who will get rid of the vermin, have his minions swear loyalty to him only....and that is a choice?
Most of the main stream media is not looking at what really happened in South Carolina after Trump won. Strange.
Yesterday was in reality a major win for Biden in the match up between Trump and Nikki.
While there is no question Trump will be the MAGA nominee for what was once the GOP, in a vote that consisted of older white people, mostly evangelical, Haley got almost 40% of the votes. Blacks did not show up to vote for him as had been predicted.
That number itself isn’t a problem in a primaries which Trump is sure to keep winning. But South Carolina includes some serious, and fatal reasons for concern in a general election. Trump lost moderate and liberal voters to Haley by a wide margin and college educated voters, according to exit polls. And, according to AP VoteCast, a bit over 1 in 5 GOP primary voters said they would not vote for Trump in November if he was the party’s nominee.
Trump in his victory speech continued to show his mental deterioration. While unlike the day before, he did not call his wife Mercedes (aka Melania, who has yet to be with him at his victory speeches or rallies?!?), he did have to read off his notes- even the names of his family. And he said he had 100% of the auto workers in Michigan behind him. Nope. He also claimed he won more than 90% of the voters and had united totally the party behind him like never before in history. Really? Wrong.
The former president cannot win in November with those numbers. His strategists, if they have half a brain, got to be pooping their pants.
I believe Nikki is hanging in just in case Trump is found guilty in a criminal trial and the party needs another person to beat Biden.
We will see.
Lucian,
You are correct. Though the media is reporting this as a big win for Trump, the numbers don’t translate well to a general election. The results showed that over 80% of Trump voters, were very conservative, 79% non college graduates. 74% evangelical Christians. Not exactly a national demographic. I am sure that over 80% were white as well.
Good analysis, and thanks.
Peace,
Steve Dundas